WEBVTT 1 00:00:28.700 --> 00:00:29.830 Jerry Corley: Greta! 2 00:00:30.650 --> 00:00:31.880 Jerry Corley: Great to see you! 3 00:00:33.040 --> 00:00:33.690 Jerry Corley: So you… 4 00:00:33.690 --> 00:00:37.550 Greta: You too, happy… happy Monday, if that's, a thing. 5 00:00:37.550 --> 00:00:41.910 Jerry Corley: Yeah, Monday's always happy, right? I don't know, I don't have a, you know… 6 00:00:42.020 --> 00:00:45.760 Jerry Corley: When you're a comedian, Monday's your day off, usually, right? 7 00:00:45.760 --> 00:00:46.720 Greta: Yeah, so… 8 00:00:46.720 --> 00:01:02.309 Jerry Corley: So, there's like, I've never really… I never really had those Monday… except in school, I remember Monday, Monday, you can't have to go to school tomorrow. But now, it's like, Monday. It's like, it's not even a day that you worry about. Some people have those Monday blues. It was like. 9 00:01:02.610 --> 00:01:05.170 Greta: Oh, they start, and they start Sunday. 10 00:01:05.170 --> 00:01:10.780 Jerry Corley: Yeah, you start the Monday… right, you start them on Sunday, so you're actually ruining one and a half days. 11 00:01:10.780 --> 00:01:11.630 Greta: When an ambition. 12 00:01:11.630 --> 00:01:14.099 Jerry Corley: I was like, oh, tomorrow I have to go to work? 13 00:01:14.410 --> 00:01:14.980 Greta: Fuck. 14 00:01:14.980 --> 00:01:24.010 Jerry Corley: Fuck! And then the whole rest of your Sunday is that, you know, rather than living in the moment of, you know, right now I don't have to do anything. 15 00:01:24.210 --> 00:01:27.100 Greta: Right. Yeah, I don't have to deal with the man. 16 00:01:27.360 --> 00:01:27.990 Jerry Corley: Yeah. 17 00:01:28.170 --> 00:01:35.759 Jerry Corley: So, I'm glad you signed up. You're in the Kathleen Madigan course, because it's like, it reminded me of you and your storytelling. 18 00:01:35.760 --> 00:01:37.810 Greta: Well, I suggested it, I don't know if anybody else, but I. 19 00:01:37.810 --> 00:01:42.099 Jerry Corley: Oh, you're… yeah, and also Kaz suggested it, too. 20 00:01:42.100 --> 00:01:43.500 Greta: Oh, peacefully, yeah. 21 00:01:43.500 --> 00:01:50.999 Jerry Corley: Kaz will be here. Kaz was like, I suggested it, and I go, oh, and now it's you, and Greta suggested it too, so that's fantastic. 22 00:01:51.000 --> 00:01:51.440 Greta: Awesome. 23 00:01:51.440 --> 00:01:57.249 Jerry Corley: Because it's like, there's a couple of things that, I see the tie-ins with. The alcoholism. 24 00:01:58.490 --> 00:02:00.509 Greta: Who told you? 25 00:02:00.510 --> 00:02:18.739 Jerry Corley: Well, Kaz struggled through that, right? So, the sobriety. But the difference, I think, with, you know, there was never any rock bottom with Kathleen Madigan. You know, she never really hit that note of, oh my god, everything's falling apart. 26 00:02:18.860 --> 00:02:23.370 Jerry Corley: She just quit during the pandemic, said, it's really not working for me anymore. 27 00:02:23.550 --> 00:02:35.489 Jerry Corley: You know, and it's so interesting, because there's a student of mine that, we were doing a two-day workshop, and the bartender at this location where we do the workshop. 28 00:02:35.630 --> 00:02:39.190 Jerry Corley: Gave the greatest recommendations. He's sober, right? 29 00:02:39.370 --> 00:02:49.969 Jerry Corley: And he's like a former biker. I don't know, are you ever really a former biker? Right? And, he says, he says, you know, it just… I just got to the point where… 30 00:02:50.770 --> 00:02:52.369 Jerry Corley: I didn't want it anymore. 31 00:02:52.990 --> 00:03:02.200 Jerry Corley: You'll get to that point where you're like, it's not really doing anything for me. And I was like, hearing that… hearing that advice, rather than the… 32 00:03:02.330 --> 00:03:13.399 Jerry Corley: Okay, you gotta go through these 12 steps, and humiliate yourself by apologizing to everybody you had a negative impact on. It's like, this could take forever! 33 00:03:14.770 --> 00:03:25.669 Jerry Corley: But I like that you just, like… and it's like, so you don't… you… the thing I like about that approach… Kathleen Madigan talked about this to some… I forget who the interviewer was with. 34 00:03:25.670 --> 00:03:38.790 Jerry Corley: But maybe it was just on our podcast that I caught a clip. And it's something I've emphasized, because in college, I wrote a whole big thesis paper on AA. It's only got a 5% success rate. 35 00:03:39.470 --> 00:03:43.269 Jerry Corley: 95% of the people who quit, quit on their own. 36 00:03:44.010 --> 00:03:53.099 Jerry Corley: And… but… if you're at rock bottom, and you got, you know, it's life or death, get into a damn meeting. At least talk to somebody, right? So that's an… 37 00:03:53.100 --> 00:03:53.490 Greta: It's. 38 00:03:53.490 --> 00:04:02.810 Jerry Corley: It's important that it's there for people like that, but the idea is that, most people either go… wind up going to moderation management. 39 00:04:03.420 --> 00:04:17.609 Jerry Corley: Or just cold turkey and quitting entirely. I remember my dad had a life-threatening issue, right? His issue was, smoking and drinking. And he was in the hospital, he bled out, he had this ulcer that was hiding in the duodenum. 40 00:04:17.779 --> 00:04:29.079 Jerry Corley: And they couldn't find it, so he kept bleeding. They were like, we don't know what to do. And finally, this doctor came and said, you know, did you scope him? And they're like, no. And so he's probably got a duodenal ulcer. 41 00:04:29.350 --> 00:04:41.059 Jerry Corley: It's probably hiding, right? So he goes in there and he searches for it and finds it. He goes, no, that's the problem. They seal it up, all of a sudden it gets better, right? And so during that time, he says. 42 00:04:41.600 --> 00:04:43.650 Jerry Corley: I had an epiphany. 43 00:04:44.450 --> 00:04:47.579 Jerry Corley: And I said, what was it, Dad? Near death? And he said. 44 00:04:47.610 --> 00:05:07.570 Jerry Corley: Morphine. It was morphine and probably near death. I felt like the angel and the devil were on my shoulders going, you know, go ahead and have another drink, man. It's like, and the angel was like, no, I'm not gonna have another drink, fuck you, right? And so, he just stopped drinking and smoking right then, boom, cold turkey. 45 00:05:07.620 --> 00:05:11.550 Jerry Corley: Hand to mouth, so… He started eating. 46 00:05:12.560 --> 00:05:28.320 Jerry Corley: So that was his replacement, right? And so that's why he got, you know, got big. Either way, the hand-to-mouth killed him, eventually, because the, you know, diabetes and all that stuff, and congestive heart failure can only go so much with that. Maybe he should have just kept drinking. 47 00:05:28.480 --> 00:05:33.520 Jerry Corley: You know? Who knows these days? You never know. But I think… 48 00:05:34.730 --> 00:05:51.469 Jerry Corley: That's part of what we were talking… the reason I kind of just launched into a story like that. It's like, it was something we were talking about, something people can relate to, some people… and then you're doing some act-out stuff, and some… adding some stakes in there, in this case, you know, being in the hospital, near-death, angel-devil. 49 00:05:51.470 --> 00:06:02.469 Jerry Corley: High on morphine and near-death experience, and then having that, which is why that story of the woman in the shower is so powerful. 50 00:06:02.470 --> 00:06:03.089 Greta: It's all. 51 00:06:03.090 --> 00:06:09.509 Jerry Corley: also, like, the one thing that hit me, I was thinking about that the other day, was like, how did that transform you? 52 00:06:09.640 --> 00:06:21.290 Jerry Corley: Was there a transformation in your character from that experience? Because why do we listen to stories? Why do we… you know, one of the biggest things in stories is the character arc. 53 00:06:21.570 --> 00:06:22.740 Jerry Corley: Right? Now. 54 00:06:23.050 --> 00:06:41.789 Jerry Corley: Which is why it bothers me when they talk about storytelling. Any class you go, I guess the literature says there are five elements to story. Character, theme, plot, character, theme, setting, plot, conflict. Those are the five elements of story. Character, theme, setting, plot, conflict. 55 00:06:42.040 --> 00:06:46.299 Jerry Corley: But they forget that narrative arc 56 00:06:46.640 --> 00:06:55.489 Jerry Corley: or a character arc. Narrative arc is the reason we're reading this or watching it, or listening to the story. 57 00:06:55.770 --> 00:07:06.490 Jerry Corley: Because it's the… it's the moral, if you will. The character starts out here, hits a dilemma, learns these lessons along the way, and then changes them as a person. 58 00:07:06.490 --> 00:07:16.910 Jerry Corley: Unless you're watching No Country for Old Men, the asshole's still an asshole at the end and just walks off into the sunset. You're like, what the fuck? Something's supposed to happen! 59 00:07:17.260 --> 00:07:37.139 Jerry Corley: Or, there will be blood, where the main character's an asshole at the beginning, is an asshole at the end, and then murders his son-in-law, and you're like, there will be blood, there will be refunds, this didn't arc, right? So, it's like, you felt little… but it was still a piece of art, because you're still talking about it, right? So you're like, I can't believe this happened. 60 00:07:37.320 --> 00:07:46.740 Jerry Corley: Didn't crush at the box office, but I think No Country for Old Men did better than There Will Be Blood. Even though There Will Be Blood, I think, had better… 61 00:07:46.910 --> 00:07:48.420 Jerry Corley: Cinematography. 62 00:07:49.910 --> 00:08:00.040 Jerry Corley: But, the storytelling, narrative arc, character arc, where's that? And so every story has some sort of lesson and some sort of change. That's… now that's the audience's takeaway. 63 00:08:00.570 --> 00:08:07.319 Jerry Corley: That's what I learned from that, you know? So it's like, oh, what if I applied something like that to my life? Would it change? 64 00:08:08.350 --> 00:08:10.309 Jerry Corley: The way things happen in my life. 65 00:08:11.130 --> 00:08:30.069 Jerry Corley: Now, we have, I think, 15 people, signed up for this class. I think many of them are streaming it later, because I know a couple of people are coming to me from, France and other parts of the world. Sarah's here, speaking of France. Hi, the lovely Sarah, good to see you, Sarah. 66 00:08:30.350 --> 00:08:32.009 Jerry Corley: Long time no see, what's happening? 67 00:08:32.010 --> 00:08:36.439 Sara: Yes, I was, busy with, something annoying that. 68 00:08:36.440 --> 00:08:37.250 Jerry Corley: Okay. 69 00:08:37.460 --> 00:08:38.989 Sara: Pay my rents, like… 70 00:08:38.990 --> 00:08:50.640 Jerry Corley: Yeah, yeah, yeah. The annoying things we have to do to pay our rent, and, you know, so it's good to see you, though. It's always nice. 71 00:08:50.640 --> 00:08:56.270 Sara: Yeah, it's good to… to come back. Maybe I go to sleep halfway, but I will try. 72 00:08:56.270 --> 00:08:59.989 Jerry Corley: Okay, okay, I know, it's a… you're an early sleeper. 73 00:09:00.860 --> 00:09:04.659 Sara: Yes, especially with another timeline, it's. 74 00:09:04.660 --> 00:09:05.500 Jerry Corley: Right. 75 00:09:05.610 --> 00:09:09.390 Jerry Corley: Well, great to have you here. Cliff, you have your hand up. 76 00:09:09.610 --> 00:09:14.780 Cliff Spenger: Yeah, I was just gonna say, both of those movies are still being talked about. In fact, you brought them up today, so… 77 00:09:14.780 --> 00:09:15.760 Jerry Corley: Yeah, yeah. 78 00:09:15.760 --> 00:09:22.619 Cliff Spenger: because they ended so weirdly, and I have the same reaction that you did, but we're still talking about them. 79 00:09:22.620 --> 00:09:39.609 Jerry Corley: Yeah, that's why I said, when I remember being home that night, and I couldn't stop talking about There Will Be Blood. And I was like, okay, so as a piece of art, it's sustaining that. Now maybe other people want to, what was so weird about it, they want to go see it, and it's a different way to deliver… 80 00:09:40.250 --> 00:09:47.029 Jerry Corley: a film. So it's like, it's not… not everything is tied up in a neat bow. Not everything happens… 81 00:09:47.140 --> 00:10:04.859 Jerry Corley: and the bad guy gets punished. We're living that shit right now here in the United States, right? And it gives the French a chance to make fun of our ass, right? And it's like, because we've got this, you know, we're like, is anything gonna happen to this guy? Right? So it's like, 82 00:10:05.040 --> 00:10:22.950 Jerry Corley: And so it's just a bizarre, experience, but it's like, that's the foreshadowing of No Country for Old Men or There Will Be Blood. Now, we're gonna watch Kathleen Mannequin. I've always liked Kathleen since way back when I first saw her. Late 80s was the first time I saw her perform. 83 00:10:22.950 --> 00:10:26.200 Jerry Corley: And I was like, I like her style. She's very… 84 00:10:26.500 --> 00:10:33.560 Jerry Corley: She's sharp, she tells stories. Now, if you listen to her, you could hear a little bit of her wet brain. 85 00:10:34.440 --> 00:10:54.349 Jerry Corley: from all the wine drinking, it's almost like that… almost like, who is it, in Hacks, in, in Hacks, it was, like, the star, you could almost… she almost plays the wet-brained character, the little bit of, like, a little… teeny bit of slur in the… 86 00:10:54.630 --> 00:11:02.709 Jerry Corley: In the, in the, you know, like you would have if you've been drinking a few, few glasses of wine, which is why I never drink before a show. 87 00:11:02.940 --> 00:11:05.389 Jerry Corley: Because it gives my… makes my tongue thick. 88 00:11:05.630 --> 00:11:21.379 Jerry Corley: And I feel like I'm not articulating. You know, it used to be the rule, like, during a show, if somebody sent up a shot, oh, my mouth was already warmed up, I can do this, right? The worst I ever did was 16 shots of Jagermeister on stage. 89 00:11:21.840 --> 00:11:30.390 Jerry Corley: Yes, same expression I had the next morning. But the, I remember I was in a blackout. 90 00:11:30.880 --> 00:11:33.959 Jerry Corley: I don't remember that. I was told the next day 91 00:11:34.050 --> 00:11:44.059 Jerry Corley: by the bartender, I woke up at 9 AM, or 8.45, bright and cheery, with throw-up on the inside of my pants, and I went, what happened with that? 92 00:11:44.120 --> 00:11:58.330 Jerry Corley: You know? Obviously, I threw up while I was blacked out. So, took a shower, went down to breakfast on the way down the elevator, and I walk out in the lobby, I see the bartender, and he goes, hey, you're alive. 93 00:11:58.930 --> 00:12:04.499 Jerry Corley: I said, why wouldn't I be? He said, you did 17 shots of Jagermeister last night. 94 00:12:05.070 --> 00:12:08.369 Jerry Corley: And I went, I thought I did 16. Well, you gave one away. 95 00:12:09.580 --> 00:12:14.450 Jerry Corley: And I said, I go, oh, okay, how was the show? 96 00:12:14.760 --> 00:12:16.900 Jerry Corley: Because, literally, I didn't remember. 97 00:12:17.310 --> 00:12:20.700 Jerry Corley: And he said, amazing! You did two and a half hours! 98 00:12:22.000 --> 00:12:29.339 Jerry Corley: I wish I would have had an audio or video of that show, because I have no idea what I did. Obviously, I was doing my thing. 99 00:12:29.340 --> 00:12:46.779 Jerry Corley: Right? And, so that's the… that was one of those moments that said, I can't do this shit anymore. That's… that's crazy. Who does that? So, when Kathleen Megan talks about drinking wine, and having a few beers, or doing, you know, 4 or 6 glasses of wine, I worked with Kathleen once or twice, and she could put them down. 100 00:12:46.780 --> 00:12:47.889 Jerry Corley: She can put them back. 101 00:12:47.890 --> 00:13:02.639 Jerry Corley: Right? I was like, I'm done. And she was like, where you going, pussy? Right? And, it was, I go, she's… wow, she's a rock star. So, I just remembered that. It was fun working with her. She's a slightly tomboyish. 102 00:13:02.640 --> 00:13:24.529 Jerry Corley: You know, very easy to talk to about a variety of things. She grew up Catholic, Midwest, I think, four brothers and a sister, maybe, like that. Her dad was a big influence in her comedy. So that Irish Catholic vibe, right? So it's like, I'm not… I'm Irish, but not Catholic. I'm Irish and Native American, so… 103 00:13:24.790 --> 00:13:28.820 Jerry Corley: already VIP seats waiting for me at any AA meeting. 104 00:13:28.820 --> 00:13:46.819 Jerry Corley: Right? You know, if I walk into that meeting, they'd be like, oh shit, it's Ronnie Bear O'Reilly. We have a chair for you in the front row, bro. Right? So, in this case, I, I can totally relate to her. And if you… if… but this is actually the first time I analyzed her storytelling. 105 00:13:47.120 --> 00:14:06.750 Jerry Corley: And I really like it, because she'll… you'll see how natural it feels, how she, uses, I would say she uses… not diegetic interruption, she uses act-outs, a lot of act-outs, a lot of he said, she said, a lot of, here's what's… here's one way of looking at it. 106 00:14:06.980 --> 00:14:22.580 Jerry Corley: I like to look at it another way. She uses comedic irony, incongruity, recognition, those are the big ones. I didn't see a lot of three-way build-ups, we may discover some together. And I just always enjoyed her storytelling and laughed. 107 00:14:22.760 --> 00:14:24.370 Jerry Corley: Especially live. 108 00:14:25.370 --> 00:14:42.010 Jerry Corley: I think she's… she's, on video, I analyze. When she's live, when you're live, you're into it. You're… you're getting that energy from the performer, but still compelling and interesting to listen to. And it may seem like something that we're not interested in. 109 00:14:42.150 --> 00:14:54.589 Jerry Corley: But because of the storytelling, we get interested in it, because we can see a lot of similarities in what she's talking about to things we recognize. Kaz, you have your hand up. 110 00:14:54.860 --> 00:15:01.419 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Yeah, I just wanted to let you know that you blocking out on Jaeger Meister is the reason why you are my hero. 111 00:15:03.850 --> 00:15:05.670 Jerry Corley: Well, that's good to know. 112 00:15:05.840 --> 00:15:11.680 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Yeah, and to answer Janet Rapala, I'm gonna tell you a secret. 113 00:15:11.950 --> 00:15:24.389 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: If you ask somebody if they're a friend of Bill W.'s, not just of Bill, usually it's Bill W, because he was one of the founders of AA, and that's the secret code. There's no secret handshake. 114 00:15:24.570 --> 00:15:30.549 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: You know, but that's the code to find out if there's another alcoholic in the room, or someone. 115 00:15:30.550 --> 00:15:33.889 Jerry Corley: Oh, nice! That is good to know. Okay, I did not know. 116 00:15:33.890 --> 00:15:42.420 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Well, there's a safety in, like, I've been hit on before, and I asked, hey, are you afraid of Bill W's? Who? I said, okay, see you later! 117 00:15:43.830 --> 00:15:44.670 Jerry Corley: Wow, okay. 118 00:15:44.670 --> 00:15:50.150 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: That means I couldn't trust them, they would be more than creepy, creepy. 119 00:15:50.150 --> 00:15:54.450 Jerry Corley: Gotcha, gotcha, alright. And why would they be more than creepy creepy? 120 00:15:54.690 --> 00:15:58.939 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Because if you're asking that, it's usually because you're sober. 121 00:15:59.040 --> 00:16:07.159 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: And then you're asking that person if they are also sober. Got it. You know, and that… not that… 122 00:16:07.170 --> 00:16:27.049 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: it's not a truism that they're more trustworthy, but if you have program under your belt, and the things that you're supposed to do as a human being, you know, you would not take advantage of someone or rob them, supposedly. That's the whole idea of going through the 12 steps, is that you become a better person and not such a creep. 123 00:16:27.560 --> 00:16:28.370 Jerry Corley: Gotcha. 124 00:16:29.090 --> 00:16:36.590 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: That's why when people don't go to meetings and do… it's a daily thing, you know, you have to work on it daily. Like your comedy. 125 00:16:36.880 --> 00:16:37.330 Jerry Corley: Yes! 126 00:16:37.330 --> 00:16:51.470 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: It's a daily thing, and when people say, oh yeah, you know, I'm a 12-cent member, I'm sober, but they don't do meetings, they don't have a sponsor, they don't have anything, then they're just a dry drunk, is what they're called. 127 00:16:51.500 --> 00:17:04.869 Jerry Corley: Well, that's another thing with, with AA. That's why they call, like, the tendencies… AA has all the tent poles of a cult, because it uses pejoratives 128 00:17:04.980 --> 00:17:20.929 Jerry Corley: To accuse other people who either stopped going to meetings or whatever by calling them names, which is very religion. They're sinners! They're dry drunks. So it's like, in that paper, that I wrote was describing the positives and negatives of that. 129 00:17:20.930 --> 00:17:28.820 Jerry Corley: And, a lot of, like, and there were a lot of precincts, if you will, especially around Manhattan and stuff, and… 130 00:17:28.820 --> 00:17:38.189 Jerry Corley: Palisades and, some places in California that were predatory, and that was an issue for a while in some of those areas, so… 131 00:17:38.190 --> 00:17:43.720 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: group is that way. It's very rigid, Nazi-like attendance. You have to dress… 132 00:17:43.720 --> 00:17:54.029 Jerry Corley: And there were some people who were basically predators for women who were going through a very difficult time trying to get sober. So, I mean, that was a… that was a big… 133 00:17:54.030 --> 00:17:55.809 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: It happens all the time, anywhere. 134 00:17:55.810 --> 00:17:57.059 Jerry Corley: It doesn't matter where you are, yeah. 135 00:17:57.060 --> 00:17:57.790 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Well, as a… 136 00:17:57.790 --> 00:17:59.860 Jerry Corley: Let's, let's not normalize it. 137 00:18:00.470 --> 00:18:05.530 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: No, but I'm just saying, you… it doesn't mean you have to accept it. I mean. 138 00:18:05.530 --> 00:18:05.850 Jerry Corley: Yeah. 139 00:18:05.850 --> 00:18:06.940 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: do it, but… 140 00:18:07.190 --> 00:18:08.319 Jerry Corley: It's good to be aware. 141 00:18:08.320 --> 00:18:09.220 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: B, yeah. 142 00:18:09.410 --> 00:18:12.970 Jerry Corley: Good to be aware. So let's get into this. Thanks for sharing that, too. 143 00:18:13.010 --> 00:18:15.810 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Kathleen Madigan, that was my request for… 144 00:18:15.810 --> 00:18:17.410 Jerry Corley: Yeah, and Greta's, too. 145 00:18:17.590 --> 00:18:18.409 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Really? Oh, great. 146 00:18:18.410 --> 00:18:19.600 Jerry Corley: Yeah, yeah. 147 00:18:19.600 --> 00:18:27.779 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: I've seen her a couple times live, and she just cracks me up, and then I didn't know she opened for Lewis Black back in the day. 148 00:18:27.780 --> 00:18:34.439 Jerry Corley: Yeah, she was, what brought Kathleen to, her… 149 00:18:34.440 --> 00:18:57.740 Jerry Corley: She was a… she's a journalist. That was her, sort of, like, specialty, right? And that was in college, she got a journalism degree, got a job in journalism, got a couple of jobs in journalism. She was freelancing as well, and nothing really big in, you know, not New York Times or, you know, anything like that, but a lot of, you know, she got regular gigs, writing columns for. 150 00:18:57.740 --> 00:19:00.050 Jerry Corley: A variety of different, 151 00:19:00.240 --> 00:19:23.850 Jerry Corley: rags, and so then her father was kind of the one that kind of encouraged her to get into stand-up, and I was like, what a cool dad is that, right? That's like my parents. You know, so it was like, she, you should do, you should try this stand-up. Now, she wound up auditioning at the St. Louis Funny Bone. She's a Missouri gal. 152 00:19:23.940 --> 00:19:25.410 Jerry Corley: And, 153 00:19:25.880 --> 00:19:38.779 Jerry Corley: Midwest, right? Got that vibe of Midwest, so she auditioned at the Funny Bone, got a regular spot there, and then within a short period of time, she was guaranteed 30 weeks of work. 154 00:19:38.940 --> 00:19:40.350 Jerry Corley: At the funny bone. 155 00:19:40.760 --> 00:19:42.950 Jerry Corley: And that was her pivot. 156 00:19:42.950 --> 00:20:01.760 Jerry Corley: into becoming a professional stand-up comedian, because she was give… you know, she was offered that. And this is like, so she's done The Tonight Show, she's done all those shows, she's done some specials, but, she was never really a superstar, right? And she is not… she wasn't chasing Hollywood fame. 157 00:20:01.760 --> 00:20:21.120 Jerry Corley: she loves her stand-up, right? She loves to do stand-up, she loves to get up there, theater approach, so she's kind of like a… maybe a little John Mulaney in there, Mike Birbiglia kind of vibe going on. And she's… she does a good job telling stories, and she's like. 158 00:20:21.120 --> 00:20:23.769 Jerry Corley: She doesn't ever seem like she's performing. 159 00:20:24.120 --> 00:20:35.109 Jerry Corley: And that's kind of another thing, she's just, like, there and doing her thing. She doesn't have to be big, exaggerated, physical, she's not Robin Williams, you know, she's not quite even, 160 00:20:37.000 --> 00:20:52.200 Jerry Corley: what's her name? Just lost her name. Maria Bamford. Maria Bamford has a lot of, like, she doesn't jump around, she doesn't have a lot of physicality, but she's got really great polyvocality. 161 00:20:52.200 --> 00:21:00.719 Jerry Corley: That dynamic shift going into dialect, and lots of different dialects, sound effects, a little bit of, 162 00:21:00.720 --> 00:21:04.970 Jerry Corley: Sometimes a little singing in there, 163 00:21:05.030 --> 00:21:20.430 Jerry Corley: You know, so it's… whereas Kathleen dialed that back a teeny bit, sometimes a little dialect in there, but she has a regular voice that appears, and that regular voice is kind of a Midwestern voice. Well, we'll take a look at that in a second. So, 164 00:21:20.430 --> 00:21:26.889 Jerry Corley: She's like, you know, one thing I noticed about her right away, the first things I wrote about her when I said, what would I say about Kathleen Madigan? 165 00:21:26.890 --> 00:21:37.360 Jerry Corley: some comedians look like they're trying, they're performing, they're trying to do comedy, and Kathleen Meghan looks like she's kind of just talking, and that's, I think, the trick that makes her so approachable. 166 00:21:37.600 --> 00:21:42.590 Jerry Corley: Because that, oh, I should probably enhance this, or at least… 167 00:21:42.860 --> 00:21:45.900 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: And she was on Last Comic Standing. 168 00:21:46.640 --> 00:21:58.489 Jerry Corley: Last Comic Standing got her tremendous exposure, right? Yeah. And since the pandemic… since the pandemic started, she started a podcast, right, called The Pubcast. 169 00:21:58.490 --> 00:22:07.429 Jerry Corley: So, kind of fits her vibe, right? So, under, conversation, under the conversational delivery. 170 00:22:07.440 --> 00:22:10.979 Jerry Corley: What happens to the expectation for there to be a joke? 171 00:22:12.610 --> 00:22:14.229 Jerry Corley: Is it high, or is it low? 172 00:22:14.230 --> 00:22:15.060 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Very low. 173 00:22:15.370 --> 00:22:31.449 Jerry Corley: low expectation, right? So delivering facts, delivering serious subject matter, delivering… just talking about something that was maybe daring, challenging in your life, that there is a low expectation for a twist. So when a twist does show up. 174 00:22:31.870 --> 00:22:40.119 Jerry Corley: then the audience is, like, more surprised, and there's a bigger laugh from that. So she ingests her just storytelling. 175 00:22:40.240 --> 00:22:50.109 Jerry Corley: We forget, in the instant you tell a story, they forget you're doing jokes. Remember that. The instant you start telling a story, they forget you're doing jokes. 176 00:22:50.290 --> 00:22:53.469 Jerry Corley: Jay Leno and I had an argument about this. 177 00:22:53.750 --> 00:23:02.040 Jerry Corley: Because at the Tonight Show, I said to Jay, Jay, stop saying… Oh, here's another one. 178 00:23:03.270 --> 00:23:12.739 Jerry Corley: Stop telling us you're telling a joke. Just tell the story. Well, they already know I'm doing a st- they already know I'm doing jokes. I'm on the star- I'm doing the monologue. 179 00:23:13.370 --> 00:23:24.519 Jerry Corley: No, they don't. The moment you launch into a story, they forget… did you guys hear this? This came out of Scientific Atlantic. It said… they said. 180 00:23:24.690 --> 00:23:27.840 Jerry Corley: Automatically, we forget it's a joke. 181 00:23:28.840 --> 00:23:40.019 Jerry Corley: If you deliver it like a joke, the expectation for laughter is still there, so when you do hit the twist, it's not as big, the laughter's not as big, because you didn't take us through the misdirection that this is a story. 182 00:23:40.520 --> 00:23:41.320 Jerry Corley: So that's… 183 00:23:41.320 --> 00:23:47.310 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: But I found about storytelling, because I think that could be my niche. 184 00:23:48.570 --> 00:24:04.890 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: that people really get involved. And if you're a good storyteller, I was told that the stories need to be true, true to you, not somebody else's view. This is… you know, I don't know if that's true or not true, but, 185 00:24:05.120 --> 00:24:09.500 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: And how I look at what happened to me is pretty funny. 186 00:24:09.570 --> 00:24:25.840 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: You know what I mean? At the time when it's happening, not so good. But later, like, when you were talking about blacking out on Jagermeister, and you had vomit in your pants, all I could think about was, you probably went to the bathroom so fucked up, you couldn't stand up, so you sat down and then you pooped 187 00:24:25.840 --> 00:24:30.799 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Puked in your shorts, and then pulled up your pants without realizing that you did that. 188 00:24:30.830 --> 00:24:32.910 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: That's a blackout, man. That is, like… 189 00:24:32.910 --> 00:24:52.749 Jerry Corley: Yeah, yeah, well, that's kind of what happened, you know? I wound up, because I wound up, you know, I was like, I was almost like Elvis on the toilet. But, in that case, I was like, you know, I didn't go back to bed. I just laid on the bathroom floor, because it was cooler, and it cooled me off a little bit, and . 190 00:24:52.750 --> 00:24:55.629 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Kyle, Ivy, those things are all cool and milk. 191 00:24:55.630 --> 00:24:59.220 Jerry Corley: So, in that case, it was like, 192 00:24:59.220 --> 00:25:24.209 Jerry Corley: I didn't even expect that I would go into a blackout, because the audience was just serving me Jaegers, and, you know, I'm Native American, so I have a storage tank that kind of time releases it, right? That's what it's there for, and it's just like, within that hour, hour and a half, or two-hour period of them sending me these Jaeger shots, and I would do them, I forgot that I was doing them, and I was still in the middle of performing. And then it's like, at some point. 193 00:25:24.210 --> 00:25:28.660 Jerry Corley: two and a half hours in. I'm like, well, I guess I should go now. 194 00:25:28.670 --> 00:25:35.139 Jerry Corley: And they, even the bartender was telling me, after I said I should go, they wouldn't let… the audience wouldn't let me leave. 195 00:25:36.160 --> 00:25:40.570 Jerry Corley: And so, I said, so the show was good? He said, it was fantastic. 196 00:25:40.690 --> 00:25:55.649 Jerry Corley: He said, and I sent a note to your booker, and I said, that was one of the best shows we've ever had here. We want to see him again. So, I said, well, I got the second show tonight. Tonight, I'm gonna be sober, though. Let's see if I can come close. 197 00:25:55.850 --> 00:26:14.010 Jerry Corley: So, he said, so the show was… I did an hour and 15, hour and 20. He said, that was a great show. It wasn't the same show, but it was, he said it was still a great show. Nobody thought they missed anything. And so he gave me good feedback. Turns out he was… he teaches theater. 198 00:26:14.010 --> 00:26:25.880 Jerry Corley: he was teaching theater at the college and at, Carroll College in Helena, and I was performing at the club that he also bartended at. So he was able to give me good theatrical feedback. 199 00:26:25.880 --> 00:26:38.590 Jerry Corley: Rather than just a bartender's feedback. So I thought that was, I thought that was really good feedback to hear. When I was sober, the show went well, and went great, but it wasn't, 200 00:26:38.590 --> 00:26:58.329 Jerry Corley: according to him, and certainly the audio sounded good, but it wasn't the same blackout show. The spontaneity that must have been there, the, the just, like, zero worry about risk-taking. So, all of that was fun. Plus, the audience kind of knew 201 00:26:58.580 --> 00:27:09.399 Jerry Corley: I was fucked up, even though I wasn't slurring my words, so they were having fun in the fact that this guy's wasted, right? It's like, which is Mitch Hedberg's sort of trick. 202 00:27:09.450 --> 00:27:18.889 Jerry Corley: People thought he was high when he took the stage, and he never was for the first part of his career. Then, as it got later in his career, he had a real fear 203 00:27:19.500 --> 00:27:29.349 Jerry Corley: of an audience. He had a lot of social anxiety, and so part of what you'd get him through that was he would get high. You know, his drug of choice is heroin. 204 00:27:29.350 --> 00:27:39.639 Jerry Corley: And, so he started doing that, and then more and more, he had to go more and do more and more to get through it. And then one time, there was a college show where he was so fucked up. 205 00:27:39.660 --> 00:27:56.389 Jerry Corley: But people were laughing just at the fact that he was fucked up, and still making sense about things, and doing jokes about things that were right around him. But it was like, as a comedian watching him, it was like, he's so much better when he's not this fucked up. So… and that was like… 206 00:27:56.390 --> 00:28:00.310 Jerry Corley: I think it was, like, that was, I think, 3 or 4 weeks before Yodied. 207 00:28:00.440 --> 00:28:25.010 Jerry Corley: So, in this case, Kathleen Madigan decided to just quit on her own. So, we take a Missouri, Irish Catholic, Midwestern, one of seven kids, which obviously explains a lot of the material, right? She originally studied journalism, so, she started at 88, 89. I thought, when originally… wasn't she part of that whole Wendy Liebman, Paula Poundstone movement? 208 00:28:25.120 --> 00:28:35.080 Jerry Corley: And that was the 80s, the early 80s. She came later, she came at the end of that boom. So, she was second wave, which meant comedy clubs already existed. 209 00:28:35.350 --> 00:28:45.859 Jerry Corley: the… the whole infrastructure of comedy was there. So, that's what helped her get plugged into, that whole, whole vibe of… of the, 210 00:28:46.590 --> 00:28:55.899 Jerry Corley: the comedy clubs in St. Louis, the, Funny Bones, because that's… I got a lot of work through the Funny Bones, too, and, 211 00:28:56.240 --> 00:29:08.709 Jerry Corley: So, that kind of… and they were able to put, I think at the time, 26 weeks together for me, and plus I had other bookers who had other weeks they put together, had the improvs going, and I had, 212 00:29:08.870 --> 00:29:23.160 Jerry Corley: the Comedy Zone, and then I had my one-nighter bookers, my corporate and college people that kept me busy. So I was, like, touring 40, 45 weeks out of the year. So, in this case, watching her go through this 213 00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:35.360 Jerry Corley: like, this constant, just regular work in the clubs, getting her… getting her act out there. She now, I think she owns a ranch in Missouri, just kind of, like, likes to spend a lot of time there. 214 00:29:36.870 --> 00:29:45.100 Jerry Corley: So, she went from journalism to comedy. Anybody can… bonus points for anybody who can name another comedian who went from journalism to comedy. 215 00:29:48.690 --> 00:29:49.990 Jerry Corley: Dennis Miller. 216 00:29:50.220 --> 00:30:05.650 Jerry Corley: Dennis Miller, and you can hear it in his material, how he writes, right? He likes to go to the minutiae, he likes to do some research, some background, he likes to use obscure references, or he liked to back in the day, and he thought his way to make a million dollars 217 00:30:05.650 --> 00:30:16.959 Jerry Corley: or millions of dollars, millions and millions of dollars, was he studied Rush Limbaugh, and he noticed that Rush Limbaugh was making, 40… 218 00:30:17.340 --> 00:30:18.200 Jerry Corley: 40… 219 00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:34.990 Jerry Corley: $48 million a year with his following of listeners, and Miller was like, well, it seems like this right-wing radio is a big thing, so I'm… I could do that, and I'm funny. 220 00:30:35.520 --> 00:30:40.480 Jerry Corley: I would really make a lot of money doing that. So he transitioned into that. 221 00:30:40.810 --> 00:30:50.120 Jerry Corley: But the problem was, he didn't realize that his… a full 70-80% of his following was sort of like liberal… 222 00:30:50.700 --> 00:31:01.799 Jerry Corley: listeners, politically leaning liberal people, who basically loved the fact that he attacked the machine. He was an iconoclast. So, he would attack the machine, the system. 223 00:31:01.800 --> 00:31:16.160 Jerry Corley: And, he became the system, and disappointed a lot of people, and his fan base dropped off. He still, I think, does some right-wing radio, but he's not the same icon that he was back in the day, certainly. So, 224 00:31:16.190 --> 00:31:26.030 Jerry Corley: But she just… she doesn't have a political leaning, necessarily. She just gets up and does the jokes. So, didn't taste celebrity… didn't chase celebrity. 225 00:31:26.090 --> 00:31:49.750 Jerry Corley: She mostly chose to write tour, special, then wash, rinse, repeat, just keep doing it, keep doing it. And, she's basically a professional road comic, then became a theater act, and she's got such a great name that when… plus the following from Last Comic Standing, her podcast, now when she does a show, she sells out, she's, she just keeps it going that way. 226 00:31:49.750 --> 00:31:56.459 Jerry Corley: So, and by the way, anybody who's doing this, you know, consider the podcast model. 227 00:31:56.500 --> 00:31:58.190 Jerry Corley: Because even… 228 00:31:58.350 --> 00:32:06.859 Jerry Corley: You know, especially if you have a story to tell, right? Even, Kaz, that's you, sobriety, that whole story is there. Even if, 229 00:32:07.630 --> 00:32:13.039 Jerry Corley: the podcast doesn't go anywhere. You're not doing it to go anywhere with it. You're doing it 230 00:32:13.040 --> 00:32:28.360 Jerry Corley: to refine your storytelling, especially if you have somebody you can, like, co-host with, and then you can talk back and forth, Q&A, he said, she said type of thing, and you're building kind of like a regular, consistent vibe. People who 231 00:32:28.460 --> 00:32:31.569 Jerry Corley: Can relate to what you talk about, will tune in. 232 00:32:31.950 --> 00:32:44.309 Jerry Corley: And, they start to listen. More and more people like to get on the niche, more and more people are watching their content than their phones. And they just look for a little something. They may watch the whole thing, they may watch a portion of it. 233 00:32:44.310 --> 00:32:58.240 Jerry Corley: You know, and they just like to check in. And, so in this case, if you, if you start one, you're practicing your storytelling, and… and get, well, how can, like, if you set goals every week. 234 00:32:58.900 --> 00:33:22.629 Jerry Corley: when you're doing your podcast, you can say, okay, this week I want to get more jokes on the way to the bigger part of the story. So how can I do that? I can pivot, I can use little wordplay on the way, use some comedic irony about a situation, and then, like, for example, I wrote a little clip here, we'll see later, just a little something that was just, like, when we were talking about giving you guys an example to write on. 235 00:33:22.690 --> 00:33:24.480 Jerry Corley: Going to the DMV. 236 00:33:25.120 --> 00:33:42.500 Jerry Corley: I just picked something we could all do, we could go to the DMV. If I was writing about going to the DMV, what are the little nuances I notice at the DMV? What I notice at the DMV is they give you a number, certainly California DMV, you get a number. And that number, you hold onto it like you're like you're buying meat at a butcher. 237 00:33:42.680 --> 00:33:50.079 Jerry Corley: And, they, basically, they, 238 00:33:50.180 --> 00:33:57.439 Jerry Corley: you have somebody who announces your number. First off, they have a monitor that shows the numbers that are coming up, and then they have, 239 00:33:57.790 --> 00:34:05.770 Jerry Corley: a voice. And the voice is now serving G29 at window 13. 240 00:34:06.100 --> 00:34:13.720 Jerry Corley: Now serving G29 at window 13. Same voice, same inflection. 241 00:34:14.120 --> 00:34:15.850 Jerry Corley: Then I go to the Home Depot. 242 00:34:16.880 --> 00:34:23.040 Jerry Corley: And then they have an announce… automatic announcement voice there, too. It's the same voice! 243 00:34:24.659 --> 00:34:29.110 Jerry Corley: Customer service, Needed in the paint department. 244 00:34:29.310 --> 00:34:39.199 Jerry Corley: customer service needed in the paint department. And I was like, why on earth would you choose the same voice from the DMV? 245 00:34:39.560 --> 00:34:41.019 Jerry Corley: For your own store. 246 00:34:43.070 --> 00:34:44.280 Jerry Corley: That's, like… 247 00:34:45.830 --> 00:35:04.099 Jerry Corley: You're asking for people to go through PTSD, basically, is what I'm saying. It's like, you go, you hear the, now serving, you know, customer service needed in the paint department, you're hitting, now serving, you know, gee, 29 at window 13. You don't want to be there. That's why Lowe's is kicking the shit out of Home Depot. 248 00:35:04.310 --> 00:35:09.880 Jerry Corley: In the home improvement category, because Lowe's doesn't have that person. 249 00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:28.179 Jerry Corley: Lowe's has somebody else, a regular person. Doesn't sound like the DMV lady, you know? That's the last thing you want, is the DMV lady, so that idea, where you could swap out one for the other, is… is humorous, and you tell that story. That's just a little story you tell on the way, you know? It's like… it's like you're trying to go buy a hammer. 250 00:35:28.680 --> 00:35:41.900 Jerry Corley: And… oh, you're encountering the DMV lady. You don't want that. It's like seeing an old friend that… seeing, like, your aunt that you hate talking to, because every time you go, hey, Aunt Sandy, how you doing? And she starts out every conversation with. 251 00:35:44.550 --> 00:35:46.810 Jerry Corley: And you're like, oh, this is not gonna go well. 252 00:35:47.120 --> 00:36:00.549 Jerry Corley: Right? And now you're hitting recognition points, but it's on the way to telling a story, right? So you tell that story, it's still part of the intro to this, the hierarching story. So in that case, you have these little notes, these little moments. So… 253 00:36:00.550 --> 00:36:18.979 Jerry Corley: So she didn't choose Hollywood, she went another way. She wanted… she loves the Midwest, she loves hanging out. Obviously, she's still there, rather than LA, right? She wasn't like, some of these comics, get me out of the clubs. She was like, I want to do a sitcom, sort of thing. But look at Jerry Seinfeld, too. Jerry Seinfeld. 254 00:36:19.150 --> 00:36:31.750 Jerry Corley: did his sitcom, but still he was doing… still doing the club work. And then, after his sitcom, he went right back to doing live stand-up again. Like, that is a comic's comic right there, right? So… 255 00:36:32.430 --> 00:36:36.669 Jerry Corley: Some of these other people who were comics became, like, game show hosts. 256 00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:38.000 Jerry Corley: Ugh. 257 00:36:38.770 --> 00:36:44.619 Jerry Corley: Wow, really? You gotta show up every day and answer the man, which is the network? 258 00:36:44.940 --> 00:36:52.170 Jerry Corley: And it's like, why would anybody want to do that? That's why we got in the stand-up in the first place, isn't it? So we didn't have a boss we had to, like… 259 00:36:52.830 --> 00:37:07.150 Jerry Corley: you know, makes… make happy every day, or to serve? You know, so it's like, why… that's why I don't understand these comics who became, like, hosts of shows. It's like, how boring is… how annoying is that? At least for me, it would be. Cliff. 260 00:37:11.690 --> 00:37:23.370 Cliff Spenger: I think it's easier money for them. And I think, you know how you equate your work to money, and the money, they can shine this big chunk of paycheck, and it's less work. 261 00:37:23.530 --> 00:37:26.810 Cliff Spenger: And so it's kind of like the lazy way out, and… 262 00:37:27.030 --> 00:37:33.630 Cliff Spenger: You know, it's when you find out you really are working for money instead of working for the love of the game kind of thing. 263 00:37:33.830 --> 00:37:40.710 Jerry Corley: Yeah, man, you're… you nailed it. You nailed it right on the head. I think that's it there. You… they see that as easy money. 264 00:37:41.010 --> 00:37:46.040 Jerry Corley: And it's like, for me, it's more difficult, because the joy is gone. 265 00:37:46.470 --> 00:38:02.110 Jerry Corley: Right? The joy of the craft is gone. I, you know, and I think a lot of people go into that because they find it easier, because, like Steve Martin said, when he was asked, are you gonna get back into stand-up after doing movies that were all hits, he's like, no, it's too hard. 266 00:38:02.590 --> 00:38:05.729 Jerry Corley: And he really had a hard time writing material. 267 00:38:05.840 --> 00:38:12.259 Jerry Corley: Which, go figure, why on his Masterclass series, when it comes time to write jokes, he sends them to my website. 268 00:38:12.780 --> 00:38:13.550 Cliff Spenger: Right. 269 00:38:13.550 --> 00:38:26.159 Jerry Corley: my 13 comedy structures. When I found out he was doing that, I was like, you gotta be kidding. He's a living legend. He's sending people to me? You know, that's so cool. But once you understand how to craft a joke. 270 00:38:26.420 --> 00:38:38.260 Jerry Corley: You can take almost any story and find the funny in it, right? There's so many tools you can use, but most comics don't know they have these tools to use to do that, so it's harder for them. 271 00:38:38.260 --> 00:38:58.870 Jerry Corley: John Mulaney doesn't have a hard time writing stories. Mike Birbiglia finds the funny in stories. Kathleen Madigan is able to find the funny in stories, which is why, for me, she's entertaining, and it seems effortless. She just starts telling the story. Of course, she refines it, and it becomes tighter and tighter, but it's still… you get to see the… will get to see the process. 272 00:38:59.220 --> 00:39:03.870 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: I, talking about, comics to become… 273 00:39:03.910 --> 00:39:22.559 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: game show host, they put Nate Berghazi in a new, game. It was the hardest thing to watch I've ever tried to watch. First of all, I really think a game show host has to have a special something-something. You know, he doesn't have that. 274 00:39:22.560 --> 00:39:23.429 Jerry Corley: He doesn't have it. 275 00:39:23.430 --> 00:39:24.949 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Okay. Didn't I see that on TV? 276 00:39:24.950 --> 00:39:26.110 Jerry Corley: Saturday Night Live? 277 00:39:26.110 --> 00:39:32.439 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Aren't you happy that you got that? Okay, let's move on. And I'm like, oh my god! 278 00:39:32.690 --> 00:39:36.840 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Thank God I didn't have a knife, I'd killed myself, it was so hard. 279 00:39:36.840 --> 00:39:41.210 Jerry Corley: I saw just some trailer from it, and it made me, actually made me sick to my stomach. 280 00:39:41.350 --> 00:39:52.480 Jerry Corley: I was like, oh my god, I could feel like if that was me, and be like, you chose this over filling up a theater, or filling up an arena? 281 00:39:52.680 --> 00:40:02.180 Jerry Corley: And telling your stories, and I was like, why would you want to do that? It's like, but I guess somebody, his agent talked him into it because of the money. 282 00:40:02.430 --> 00:40:03.319 Jerry Corley: Right? To be fair. 283 00:40:03.500 --> 00:40:16.120 Cliff Spenger: he's… he's got a theme park, too, okay? So, he's… this is a dude that's, like, he could try anything he wants, so for him, I think it's just a… let me give that a try, kind of thing, you know? 284 00:40:16.120 --> 00:40:17.349 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: There's a theme park? 285 00:40:17.540 --> 00:40:24.350 Cliff Spenger: Yeah, he's bought an amusement park, so he just does all kinds of weird shit. He wants to make his own TV. 286 00:40:24.780 --> 00:40:26.520 Cliff Spenger: channel, or whatever. He'll do it… 287 00:40:26.520 --> 00:40:27.260 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: work, yeah. 288 00:40:27.260 --> 00:40:31.070 Cliff Spenger: You know, he has money, so he's just… he's just entertaining himself. 289 00:40:31.400 --> 00:40:39.310 Jerry Corley: Oh, I think, yeah, that's a good point, sure. I mean, Matt Reif kind of did the same thing with the weird shit he's spending his money on. 290 00:40:39.310 --> 00:40:43.229 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: He was horrible at the night of comics at Hollywood Bowl I went. 291 00:40:43.770 --> 00:40:44.230 Jerry Corley: boom. 292 00:40:44.230 --> 00:40:46.109 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Disgusting Matt Rife. 293 00:40:46.110 --> 00:40:46.800 Jerry Corley: Okay. 294 00:40:46.800 --> 00:41:01.380 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: it was really… well, first of all, he… you can't do crowd work at the Hollywood Bowl. I am so sorry. There's a huge, like, gap between the stage and where the audience is, and then I don't think he realized the majority of people are, like. 295 00:41:01.380 --> 00:41:17.969 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: 40, 50, 60 in the Hollywood Bowl, and he was talking about the nastiest sexual stuff, about a stripper in Mexico, and writing. It was… like, I was embarrassed for him, you know, and I've heard pretty much everything. 296 00:41:18.040 --> 00:41:18.700 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: You know. 297 00:41:18.700 --> 00:41:20.729 Jerry Corley: Wow, wow, that's not good. 298 00:41:20.730 --> 00:41:22.500 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Yeah, it was like… 299 00:41:22.710 --> 00:41:29.349 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: You could see him dying from the beginning, and you could only hear, like, little patches of laughter. 300 00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:38.369 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: And then you… if you look, it was younger people, because that's his audience, you know, 21 to 35, maybe 40. 301 00:41:38.530 --> 00:41:45.219 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: You know, it was just… it was… it was a waste of money to go to that. I went to that thing. It, it was bad. 302 00:41:45.630 --> 00:41:47.830 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: I was sad that I went. 303 00:41:48.340 --> 00:41:50.040 Jerry Corley: Wow. 304 00:41:51.150 --> 00:41:56.619 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: 7, 8, 9, 10 minutes. The person who was the longest was John Mulaney. 305 00:41:57.940 --> 00:41:58.490 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: It was… 306 00:41:58.490 --> 00:41:59.130 Jerry Corley: Wow. 307 00:41:59.130 --> 00:42:00.450 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: It was really weird. 308 00:42:00.860 --> 00:42:02.959 Jerry Corley: That is weird. That's very weird. 309 00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:03.620 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Yeah. 310 00:42:03.620 --> 00:42:04.759 Jerry Corley: So, it's like. 311 00:42:04.760 --> 00:42:19.059 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: And they filmed it, so one day you'll be able to see it, and then watch it, and you'll go, oh my god. It was 3 hours of torture. It was really torturous. And all I could think about is, oh, God, it's a shame I don't drink, because, man, I could really use a drink now. 312 00:42:22.640 --> 00:42:23.599 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: You know, I'm wearing… 313 00:42:23.600 --> 00:42:46.949 Jerry Corley: See, that's funny, because what that is, we don't expect to hear that, because a lot of people who are outside of AA in that process don't know that. It's like, wow, I could really use a drink right now. It's a shame I don't drink, because I could really use a drink right now. That's very funny, right? And it's, so, I'm glad you, kind of shared that moment there, because, it is, 314 00:42:46.950 --> 00:42:47.800 Jerry Corley: you know. 315 00:42:48.390 --> 00:43:06.550 Jerry Corley: That kind of underscores, using comedic irony, you didn't say it sucked, you basically said, wow, I could really use a drink. I don't… you know, I was kind of sad I wasn't drinking, because, yeah, I could really use a drink right now. That's one way of saying, this is how bad it is. 316 00:43:07.350 --> 00:43:13.019 Jerry Corley: You didn't say how bad it was, you just said, I could really use a drink right now. I'm so… this is how bad it was. 317 00:43:13.320 --> 00:43:31.549 Jerry Corley: I was really sad I was sober, because I could… I was looking at it going, I could really use a drink right now. That's one way of saying it without saying it. So that is another thing that Kathleen Madigan's really good at. That's her specialty, is comedic irony. What is saying it without saying it? It's comedic irony. So, 318 00:43:31.560 --> 00:43:49.129 Jerry Corley: There's, there's something you could do, you know, definitely do with that. You can do that all day long, and people get it. Mulaney uses that, certainly, Gary Shandling, that was his specialty, too. So, I'm sorry, I wanted to send, make sure I got something out to, 319 00:43:49.340 --> 00:43:54.630 Jerry Corley: A student who's trying to get in, So, let's see. 320 00:43:54.900 --> 00:43:57.749 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: And they did skits… I'm sorry. 321 00:43:58.170 --> 00:43:58.580 Jerry Corley: You know. 322 00:43:58.580 --> 00:43:59.360 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: kits. 323 00:43:59.880 --> 00:44:09.239 Jerry Corley: One of the… wait a sec, one of the things that you just mentioned about Nate Bergazi doing game show hosting, right? So, the funny thing is, it's like. 324 00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:13.739 Jerry Corley: when we talk about Hollywood, when I read… 325 00:44:14.700 --> 00:44:24.589 Jerry Corley: I read, a book on, why, you know, basically why comics pivot to Hollywood and, you know, get into the Hollywood machine. 326 00:44:24.590 --> 00:44:37.520 Jerry Corley: And one of the things was, well, Hollywood likes high concept, Hollywood likes high stakes, Hollywood likes a little flashy, big heat, extreme archetypes, blah blah blah, and it's like, Nate Pragazi's the opposite of that. 327 00:44:38.640 --> 00:44:51.680 Jerry Corley: So, it's like, they go to Nate Brigazi because he has a huge following. Well, if Nate Brigazi made $82.5 million on the road and booking in the box office, then… 328 00:44:51.770 --> 00:44:59.519 Jerry Corley: he's definitely gonna… that's definitely gonna convert to TV, and when it doesn't, they're gonna be surprised. So, 329 00:44:59.620 --> 00:45:10.319 Jerry Corley: Whereas, in this case, you know, Kathleen is not really flashy, but I think she would be totally right for a sitcom. She's Roseanne Barr. 330 00:45:11.250 --> 00:45:13.689 Jerry Corley: In a way. Middle America. 331 00:45:13.720 --> 00:45:33.099 Jerry Corley: kind of concept, but maybe she doesn't like the acting part of it, and then because it's not something she really enjoys. She enjoys telling her stories her way, and I think that's the beauty of stand-up. One of the things that… I remember Bud Friedman got mad at me because I was working at the Riviera Comedy Club after… 332 00:45:33.870 --> 00:45:39.670 Jerry Corley: The entertainment director dropped the franchise for the improv. 333 00:45:40.290 --> 00:45:46.869 Jerry Corley: And… But Friedman said, well, if you work there, Mr. Corley, you can't work for me. 334 00:45:47.420 --> 00:45:53.039 Jerry Corley: And I said, dude, I didn't get into this business for people telling me where I can and can't work. 335 00:45:54.340 --> 00:46:02.490 Jerry Corley: I'm sorry you have a problem with the guy running the, the Riviera Comedy Club now, but that's your fight, that's not my fight. 336 00:46:02.960 --> 00:46:16.490 Jerry Corley: You know, you shouldn't blame me for what you got going on in your head, right? And so, that hurt my relationship with Bud Friedman at that moment. I said, what is your rule? There's gotta be a rule. 90 days? What is it? 60 days? 90 days? 337 00:46:16.630 --> 00:46:20.719 Jerry Corley: And he said, 90 days. You can't work there for 90 days. 338 00:46:21.250 --> 00:46:26.139 Jerry Corley: Before you work my thing. And I was still like, that's… you're not paying me for exclusivity. 339 00:46:27.180 --> 00:46:40.219 Jerry Corley: Fuck that, right? And I basically told him to blow it out his ass. Not in those exact words. But he felt that way, right? But it was like, I'm not gonna have somebody tell me. Now, as a result of that decision. 340 00:46:40.290 --> 00:46:51.419 Jerry Corley: I was like, is that a good decision? I don't know if I did, you know, did right by that. Steve Sharipa, who was the entertainment director at the Riviera, put me to work forever in Vegas. 341 00:46:51.780 --> 00:46:55.240 Jerry Corley: And it was like, I got so much work in Vegas. 342 00:46:55.340 --> 00:47:06.100 Jerry Corley: Because I showed that I love to do what I do. He said, the reason I hire you is because you love this shit. You love this audience. I hate these people. You love them. 343 00:47:06.440 --> 00:47:10.010 Jerry Corley: You like to see them have a good time. That's what we need. 344 00:47:10.140 --> 00:47:12.900 Jerry Corley: Even though I'm not a big fan of it, you know. 345 00:47:13.020 --> 00:47:23.569 Jerry Corley: you know, you get up there and they respond to you, and so I'm gonna put you to work. And he did. Bud Friedman put me to work too, but not as much as… 346 00:47:24.010 --> 00:47:34.950 Jerry Corley: the entertainment director at the Riviera did, and so it was like, that decision wound up being a good decision, but still, you know. 347 00:47:35.670 --> 00:47:44.039 Jerry Corley: And Bud Friedman wound up selling the booking rights of the improvs to the guy who basically, owns, 348 00:47:44.380 --> 00:47:58.160 Jerry Corley: Liberty Live. So it really changed the entire culture when Bud Freeman did that. So it was like, I don't wanna, you know… so, in this case, I see Kathleen Madigan doing the same thing. She likes to stay grounded. 349 00:47:58.160 --> 00:48:10.419 Jerry Corley: do her thing, not be a celebrity, stay an artist, you know, kind of so it matches that vibe. So let's take a look at this. This is one of her latest, I think, 350 00:48:11.750 --> 00:48:25.959 Jerry Corley: This is one of her latest stand-up things, the one she did in 2025, and we'll watch this clip together, and just listen to her storytelling. Write into the story, she engages with the audience, and she gets the laughs there. 351 00:48:26.150 --> 00:48:26.620 Audio shared by Jerry Corley: It took me. 352 00:48:26.620 --> 00:48:27.330 Jerry Corley: what's up? 353 00:48:28.760 --> 00:48:44.129 Audio shared by Jerry Corley: took me 25 years to have enough say-so to, well, where do you want to tape your special? And we had to get here, you had to get there. And now, finally, I am old enough where I go, no, no, we're gonna go where I want to go. And they go, where do you want to go? I said, I want to go to Detroit. 354 00:48:47.460 --> 00:48:49.230 Audio shared by Jerry Corley: And they said, why? 355 00:48:50.650 --> 00:49:01.950 Audio shared by Jerry Corley: I said, two reasons. I'm not sure I'm fond of all of you, and I know that in Detroit, at any given moment, something weird and bad could happen to all of you. 356 00:49:03.120 --> 00:49:15.809 Audio shared by Jerry Corley: And second of all, the people in Detroit, perhaps you haven't read it, those of you who haven't read a newspaper, are the most optimistic people. They're still there. 357 00:49:15.930 --> 00:49:18.490 Audio shared by Jerry Corley: Do you… do you understand? 358 00:49:19.620 --> 00:49:42.110 Audio shared by Jerry Corley: They are still there. 60 Minutes has covered it, 2020 has covered it, the New York Times has covered it, and what is the conversation at the dinner table? Well, something's gonna happen, it's gotta turn around, I mean, I don't know when, but I'm certainly not leaving yet. I have hope. I mean, that Kwame Kilpatrick was crazy. But you move on. You do, you move on. 359 00:49:42.870 --> 00:49:45.709 Audio shared by Jerry Corley: And you… you find a better man. 360 00:49:46.810 --> 00:50:09.460 Audio shared by Jerry Corley: Now, I don't know if this is progress, but normally, and this is my city included, we're usually flip-flop in number 1 and number 2 in murder. It's usually Detroit and then St. Louis, which is why I feel so close to you people. I understand the element that you live with, that at any moment, shit could get weird. Just driving down 361 00:50:09.460 --> 00:50:20.020 Audio shared by Jerry Corley: You don't know. Things could get weird. But this year… Oh, no, no, no, no! Number one, Flint. Yeah. 362 00:50:21.080 --> 00:50:35.960 Audio shared by Jerry Corley: I'm like, how? How is that possible? There's not even any people there. Are they just shooting people that drive by and counting that? Are they, like, tricking people to flint? Free money! And then they shoot them and go, there's another one, we're so gonna win this year. 363 00:50:36.760 --> 00:50:57.159 Audio shared by Jerry Corley: I'm not afraid of normal things. It amazes me when my friend is a DVD distributor, and he's like, you know what, people love? Horror movies, because teenagers, they love to pay to be frightened. I go, that's because they have not lived long enough to know that real life will scare the shit out of you. There is no reason 364 00:50:57.710 --> 00:51:10.410 Audio shared by Jerry Corley: To go pay, to be scared. Because at this age, I could care less if a vampire walked in my house. I truly wouldn't even blink an eye. But look at this mole. Yeah, that scares me. 365 00:51:10.520 --> 00:51:11.919 Audio shared by Jerry Corley: Look at that mole! 366 00:51:12.480 --> 00:51:23.039 Audio shared by Jerry Corley: But I don't have time to go to my doctor, so I just ask other comedians, they're like, hey, does that look fucked up to you? And they go, no. I go, cool. And then I go have another beer, and forget about it. 367 00:51:24.280 --> 00:51:35.400 Audio shared by Jerry Corley: Yeah, really, you're gonna pay to be scared? I'll scare ya. Here's a letter from the IRS. Do you want to open that now, or after you've eaten lunch, and you can vomit your $8 lunch special? 368 00:51:35.500 --> 00:51:58.990 Audio shared by Jerry Corley: I'm not afraid of a burglar, I'm afraid of the mailman. That's who I'm afraid of. That son of a bitch hasn't brought anything good to my house since I was 10. That's the last time I got a birthday card with money in it. That was it. Ever since then, nothing. But I do love the post office, which is a bit of a dichotomy, because I cannot believe, at this age, I have friends 369 00:51:58.990 --> 00:52:01.440 Audio shared by Jerry Corley: That when they raised the price of his stamp. 370 00:52:01.440 --> 00:52:17.379 Audio shared by Jerry Corley: My friends will go insane. Young people, in their 30s and 40s, it's not old people on a budget, 30-year-olds. Oh, my God, they raise the price of death! Jesus Christ! That's a highway robbery! This federal government! Really? 371 00:52:18.780 --> 00:52:23.520 Audio shared by Jerry Corley: It's 49 cents! You're angry about that? 372 00:52:23.830 --> 00:52:38.360 Audio shared by Jerry Corley: Because I feel the exact opposite way. I cannot believe, to this day, that I can walk into a building with a piece of paper in my hand and look at a full-grown adult and go. 373 00:52:39.160 --> 00:52:45.229 Audio shared by Jerry Corley: 49 cents. Will you take this to Alaska? 374 00:52:47.520 --> 00:52:55.280 Audio shared by Jerry Corley: And I go, yes, ma'am, we'll have it there in two days. Is there anything else you'd like? More stamps! This is crazy! 375 00:52:57.930 --> 00:53:13.519 Audio shared by Jerry Corley: Because, and then the government's cutting some of the poor stuff, and that makes me sad, because then there's always a big argument. Should the government pay for programs like that or not? I don't know. I feel back and forth. PBS, Mitt Romney said, cancel it. No! That's Sesame Street. You can't do that. 376 00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:29.720 Audio shared by Jerry Corley: But you could do PBS better than it's being done, I can tell you, I don't get it. I know, in hotels, it's always the channel that's on. So, like, I'll come home from a show, and maybe I've had 2 or 4 glasses of wine. 377 00:53:29.720 --> 00:53:49.139 Audio shared by Jerry Corley: And maybe it's late, and maybe I'm in a settlemental mood, and that's what PBS does, they show settlemental concerts. It's those three old people sitting on a couch. It's like they're talking directly to you. Hey, Kathleen, welcome home for the show. Did you have a good time tonight? Yeah. Yeah, I did. Had a good time tonight. 378 00:53:49.290 --> 00:53:53.040 Audio shared by Jerry Corley: Would you like to hear a little John Denver the same thing? 379 00:53:53.420 --> 00:53:57.699 Audio shared by Jerry Corley: Yes, I love chatbot. 380 00:53:57.970 --> 00:54:06.509 Audio shared by Jerry Corley: I don't tell people that. It sounds geeky, and I'm still really angry at him for not putting enough gas in his airplane. I don't understand. I don't understand! 381 00:54:06.760 --> 00:54:13.419 Audio shared by Jerry Corley: How you do that. You're an American icon. Check your gas cage. All right, okay. 382 00:54:14.260 --> 00:54:19.240 Audio shared by Jerry Corley: But yes, I'd like to hear some John Dev… would you like to hear John Debra sing Sunshine? 383 00:54:19.710 --> 00:54:20.640 Audio shared by Jerry Corley: Oh, yeah! 384 00:54:20.980 --> 00:54:22.660 Audio shared by Jerry Corley: I lost the phone! 385 00:54:22.810 --> 00:54:42.539 Audio shared by Jerry Corley: And then, bam! They blast you to Red Rocks! There it is, Colorado, Red Rocks, 1978, there's John Denver, singing it! Sunshine on my shoulders makes me… and then he's gone, and it's old people again. Hey, Kathleen, were you, were you enjoying? 386 00:54:42.640 --> 00:54:44.100 Audio shared by Jerry Corley: That… it's all. 387 00:54:44.410 --> 00:54:53.409 Audio shared by Jerry Corley: Yeah, yeah, it was. Would you like to hear John sing the rest of Sunshine? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I would. Well, here's the thing. 388 00:54:54.790 --> 00:55:09.709 Audio shared by Jerry Corley: We are $84 short, and we got Peter Paul and Marin coming up next, and I know you don't want Puff the Magic Dragon interrupted, so why don't you just go ahead and put $250 down on your credit card and enjoy your evening. 389 00:55:11.960 --> 00:55:35.760 Audio shared by Jerry Corley: You wonder about our government spending money, you wonder who makes these decisions, because Louis and I have gone to Iraq and Afghanistan over and over. I don't even say that for applause, because really, I wouldn't go if I remembered the number and didn't pick up. It's just, I'm too Catholic, and I'm too guilty to say no, I can't lie like that, I'm a terrible liar, they would know I was lying. I just go. 390 00:55:36.020 --> 00:55:45.750 Audio shared by Jerry Corley: But Afghanistan? I mean, the… unbelievable. I don't even understand. You get there, and you're like, what, what, what are we, what are we going for here? Because they… 391 00:55:45.870 --> 00:55:56.390 Audio shared by Jerry Corley: It's a horrible, horrible place. It's freezing, which you would never think, because on the news, when you see the Taliban guys, they're always just in a sheet. They don't have, like, a… 392 00:55:57.010 --> 00:56:05.050 Audio shared by Jerry Corley: Yeah, like, wear parka, and mittens, and stuff. It looks like fall, and you wear your sheetwear, and you run around, and… 393 00:56:06.070 --> 00:56:19.679 Audio shared by Jerry Corley: Looks like fall. And I always thought that's why I would be a horrible terrorist, because I'm already prone to naps, and if you put me in a sheet all day, oh my god, forget it! I would never leave the cave. I would be the worst… 394 00:56:20.650 --> 00:56:37.039 Audio shared by Jerry Corley: terrorists ever. I'd be like, yeah, I know everybody's really mad, but I'm just gonna guard the cave while you guys go do that. And I'm gonna take a nice snap in this thread count. Have you felt my thread count? And I have a pillow conveniently located on the top of my… 395 00:56:37.690 --> 00:56:58.550 Audio shared by Jerry Corley: It's freezing. It's like 10 degrees in Afghanistan. And there's sand flying in your face at all times. I don't care what direction you look, there's sand flying in your face. So it doesn't even make sense in my Midwest mind, if sand's flying in my face, I should be in a swimming suit holding a multicolored alcoholic drink I forgot I loved. 396 00:57:00.180 --> 00:57:06.110 Jerry Corley: Alright, that is a little bit of, Kathleen Madigan. 397 00:57:06.110 --> 00:57:23.790 Jerry Corley: All the way through. Listen to that storytelling. Listen to the way she was able to pivot to act-outs, and pivot to, if this is true, what else is true? One of the tricks she uses… can anybody tell me one of the tricks she uses to get there? 398 00:57:24.720 --> 00:57:32.509 Cliff Spenger: compare and contrast, she'd used several times earlier. I can't even remember which things she compared and contrast, but they were brilliant. 399 00:57:32.780 --> 00:57:45.130 Jerry Corley: Yeah, so she does the compare and contrast. She also does a very Jim Gaffigan move. She sort of backs out of the subject matter she's talking about, and she's saying, what 400 00:57:45.530 --> 00:57:47.230 Jerry Corley: Is this like? 401 00:57:47.730 --> 00:58:05.520 Jerry Corley: And then she kind of spells out the basic elements of what she's doing. There's a perfect example is that stamp thing, alright, going into the post office. She goes into the stamp thing, because you know what that's like? That's Louis C.K. talking about the cell phone. 402 00:58:06.230 --> 00:58:08.089 Jerry Corley: is that I've got friends 403 00:58:08.240 --> 00:58:25.670 Jerry Corley: get so mad when a call drops, or the signals go… you know, they can't… the call doesn't stay… they get… the signal drops in there, or they can't hear the other person on the phone. They get so mad about this. And it's like, do you realize that you're talking on a phone. 404 00:58:25.780 --> 00:58:29.409 Jerry Corley: And they're sending a signal up to a space satellite. 405 00:58:29.810 --> 00:58:47.049 Jerry Corley: And then it's coming down on the other person's phone. Now, that's not quite what they do, they use cell towers, they don't use satellites in this case, but the fact of the matter is he's exaggerating, using exaggeration to sort of spell out what's going on, and… and you're worried that the signal glitched? 406 00:58:47.640 --> 00:58:50.320 Jerry Corley: This technology's amazing. 407 00:58:50.790 --> 00:59:05.179 Jerry Corley: And you're getting it for pennies on the dollar, and you're complaining. Now, the thing with… when she takes the 49 cents, man, when mail went up to, like, 50 cents to send a letter, I was like, what the fuck? 408 00:59:05.830 --> 00:59:09.520 Jerry Corley: Right? But I was from the day where it was, like, a dime. 409 00:59:09.820 --> 00:59:20.380 Jerry Corley: Right? Remember that? It's like, you could send a… yeah, a stamp of 7 cents, or something like that, and then they went up, we're going up to a dime, or like, a 3 cent increase? 410 00:59:20.820 --> 00:59:22.360 Jerry Corley: That's insane! 411 00:59:24.340 --> 00:59:32.110 Jerry Corley: And it's like, then you think about… and then it's like, when she spells it out, she goes, you know, where else can I walk into a building 412 00:59:32.980 --> 00:59:52.449 Jerry Corley: Talk to a real human being, and she giggles through it. This is what… how she humanizes the piece, and I think this is where a lot of comedians fail, right? They forget they're telling the story, and you've got to share your joy in the, kind of, the ridiculousness, the silliness of what you're about to say. 413 00:59:52.450 --> 00:59:56.530 Jerry Corley: And so, that engages them. They have to listen even more. 414 00:59:56.530 --> 01:00:06.519 Jerry Corley: So, did you, so did you hear that? One little… that one little behavioral nuance is so important to make the storytelling human. If she giggles, you don't have to giggle. 415 01:00:06.540 --> 01:00:15.910 Jerry Corley: You can use… you can be exasperated, you can use urgency in your voice, you can be like, I… oh, man, I can't even imagine! 416 01:00:16.810 --> 01:00:27.670 Jerry Corley: now they're still connecting to the emotion, that's a real emotion. Emotion is where people connect, right? So that's her trick, right? She uses that little guy, walk into a building. 417 01:00:27.840 --> 01:00:31.410 Jerry Corley: And go up to a real human being. 418 01:00:31.970 --> 01:00:35.839 Jerry Corley: With a piece of paper, and say 49 cents. 419 01:00:37.000 --> 01:00:39.219 Jerry Corley: Can you take this to Alaska? 420 01:00:39.420 --> 01:00:44.490 Jerry Corley: And they're like, yeah, no problem. Can I do anything else? Yeah, give me more stamps! 421 01:00:44.880 --> 01:00:48.220 Jerry Corley: Because that's amazing, right? Instead. 422 01:00:48.940 --> 01:01:07.980 Jerry Corley: of complaining, she goes the opposite, so that's a compare and contrast with a little added benefit of dialing it back, coming out of what it is. We've normalized it so much, so she reframes it to its basic truth. Jim Gaffigan uses this technique all the time. What is Disneyland? 423 01:01:08.060 --> 01:01:10.100 Jerry Corley: Disneyland is… 424 01:01:11.470 --> 01:01:20.900 Jerry Corley: Old guys standing with their family in… standing in, like, standing in line on this… on the… on the surface of the sun. 425 01:01:21.810 --> 01:01:29.000 Jerry Corley: Sweating through their clothes, and complaining about it being hotter than the surface of the sun. 426 01:01:29.180 --> 01:01:34.940 Jerry Corley: While they're waiting, To get to the front of the line. For hours! 427 01:01:36.460 --> 01:01:41.129 Jerry Corley: And then, you know, and he goes on and he basically kind of defines what it's like 428 01:01:42.050 --> 01:01:48.929 Jerry Corley: And if you really look at it from a different perspective, if, like, if an alien land and watch these people standing in this line, what are they waiting for? 429 01:01:49.480 --> 01:01:51.590 Jerry Corley: You know, in this heat! 430 01:01:51.870 --> 01:01:55.680 Jerry Corley: What are they waiting for? And it's like, to ride that ride. 431 01:01:57.450 --> 01:02:04.279 Jerry Corley: Really? They put themselves through that kind of discomfort? All he's doing is complaining! 432 01:02:04.390 --> 01:02:07.729 Jerry Corley: Right? And it's like, well, he's gonna get to ride that ride! 433 01:02:07.960 --> 01:02:08.970 Jerry Corley: And it's like… 434 01:02:09.160 --> 01:02:16.850 Jerry Corley: it's not worth it, right? And it's like, and then he talks about the whining and stuff like that, then he goes, that's why they call it the happiest place on Earth. 435 01:02:16.850 --> 01:02:29.870 Jerry Corley: Right? And the irony there is incredible, right? So it's like, when he breaks it down to what it really is. So it's like finding out what is… what else is going on here? What else could it be? So we're gonna sort of, like, do that as an exercise. 436 01:02:30.380 --> 01:02:34.370 Cliff Spenger: That's like, sitting in traffic, going to work in the morning. 437 01:02:35.170 --> 01:02:37.819 Jerry Corley: And you do that every day? Yeah. So, Greta, you had your hand up? 438 01:02:37.820 --> 01:02:39.790 Cliff Spenger: Why are you going there? Yeah. 439 01:02:40.710 --> 01:02:50.969 Greta: Well, I was just gonna add, too, what I love about her is that when she goes into the voice, like, with the voice in the mailman, she makes it, like, almost like this drug deal, like, hey. 440 01:02:51.210 --> 01:02:52.650 Greta: You know, come here. 441 01:02:53.210 --> 01:02:55.950 Greta: Yeah, I got this piece of paper, you know? 442 01:02:55.950 --> 01:02:57.080 Jerry Corley: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 443 01:02:57.080 --> 01:02:59.029 Greta: And so it kind of brings you in more, and it makes. 444 01:02:59.030 --> 01:02:59.790 Jerry Corley: Right! 445 01:02:59.790 --> 01:03:01.880 Greta: Extra funny with the… 446 01:03:01.880 --> 01:03:19.239 Jerry Corley: So that's dialect, that's polyvocality, that's a dynamic shift in the act out, so we forget how important those are in our storytelling. We kind of just tell our stories, we forget that we, you know, when you tell the story, and it's like, what is going on here? It's like, this is a secret. 447 01:03:19.280 --> 01:03:23.929 Jerry Corley: There's this little secret that if you give this person 49 cents. 448 01:03:24.470 --> 01:03:27.480 Jerry Corley: They'll take that piece of paper to Alaska. 449 01:03:28.020 --> 01:03:29.839 Jerry Corley: There's a group that does that. 450 01:03:30.250 --> 01:03:33.019 Jerry Corley: Really? There's a group that'll take this to Alaska? 451 01:03:33.540 --> 01:03:34.320 Jerry Corley: Yeah. 452 01:03:34.440 --> 01:03:40.150 Jerry Corley: You know, well, a piece of paper. But as soon as it becomes a box, sell your house. 453 01:03:41.090 --> 01:03:47.669 Jerry Corley: Right, because that's logistics, man. You know how expensive logistics has become, right? It's like, it's like, when did… 454 01:03:48.020 --> 01:04:01.610 Jerry Corley: the shipping something becomes so expensive, right? And now with gas prices at $7, $8 for diesel, whatever it is, it's now, like, you want to sell… you want to send something that's not a… 455 01:04:01.970 --> 01:04:15.260 Jerry Corley: piece of paper, then you're, like, then you're, like, then you're paying through the… paying through the nose for that. So, in that case, we see how she sort of does that, and I love that. So, good… good to notice. What is she doing there? 456 01:04:15.260 --> 01:04:29.949 Jerry Corley: It's very Jim Gaffigan, very Louis C.K. in taking this idea and then sort of backing out of what it is. Like, it could be technology, could be a car, could be a, and with everything that's going on. 457 01:04:30.520 --> 01:04:41.010 Jerry Corley: everything that's going on, especially when you take on… you'll notice she doesn't take on anything that creates too much friction. That's why I called it… it's, like, without the heavy lifting. 458 01:04:41.460 --> 01:04:43.190 Jerry Corley: She doesn't go into details. 459 01:04:43.310 --> 01:04:56.140 Jerry Corley: she sort of stays on the surface a little bit, and the simple truth of what's happening. She doesn't go into the minutiae. She mentioned Kwame Kilpatrick. Does anybody remember Kwame Kilpatrick? 460 01:04:57.470 --> 01:05:01.370 Jerry Corley: Kwame was a legislator in, 461 01:05:01.520 --> 01:05:20.829 Jerry Corley: in, Michigan, who became the mayor of Detroit, who then got busted for, I think it was racketeering and fraud, and it was through text message scams that he was doing, and wound up getting, like, I think 28 years 462 01:05:22.260 --> 01:05:26.179 Jerry Corley: Which… he's a politician, isn't that… that's excessive. 463 01:05:26.330 --> 01:05:29.829 Jerry Corley: 28 years, why not just give them a year? Because that's, like. 464 01:05:30.740 --> 01:05:43.650 Jerry Corley: He's a politician, it's almost expected, right? And, so Trump thought he was… that he thought the sentence was excessive. So he basically accumulated his sentence. 465 01:05:43.980 --> 01:05:51.480 Jerry Corley: And, so he went from being a, basically a, a… 466 01:05:51.730 --> 01:06:00.999 Jerry Corley: a mayor or politician who was committing fraud and cons, and making money from it, and he moved to Georgia. 467 01:06:03.110 --> 01:06:04.770 Jerry Corley: And became a preacher. 468 01:06:07.950 --> 01:06:10.989 Jerry Corley: So we can continue being a con. 469 01:06:11.320 --> 01:06:23.959 Jerry Corley: and taking people's money by selling them lies, and then… but now it's under a different thing, and it's perfectly legit. But you see the… how… do you see the irony there of that? She didn't go into those weeds. 470 01:06:24.290 --> 01:06:49.240 Jerry Corley: She stayed on the surface and let the audience use their recognition of who Kwame Kilpatrick was to get the laugh. She let them configure it so she didn't have to go in the weeds. Me, I would love to go into those weeds and show that super irony of he's doing the same thing, but she didn't go there. She didn't want to divide that audience. She just stayed at, you know, she did it in that character acting. 471 01:06:49.240 --> 01:07:05.649 Jerry Corley: out. You know, we had that weird thing with Kwame Kilpatrick, but you move on. You find a new man, and you move on. It's like, we'll get past this. You know, and she's doing the Midwest, I gotta perfect my Midwesterner, and it's not good. It's more kind of Boston meets a drunken New Yorker. But it's like, 472 01:07:05.650 --> 01:07:16.210 Jerry Corley: The way she does that, she's able to tell that story with the misdirection and the other character explaining that weird thing with Kwame of Kilpatrick. The recognition alone got the big laugh. 473 01:07:16.230 --> 01:07:23.290 Jerry Corley: an applause break, and then she… she kind of just keep… kept telling the story there. So. 474 01:07:23.290 --> 01:07:44.870 Jerry Corley: When people say, how can I tell this story? I think Kaz had added this once, asked this question once, how can they tell the story without going into, sort of, the details that creates that friction that could divide the audience? It's like Kathleen Madigan's a perfect example. She stays on the surface, uses the recognition, gets the laugh, moves on, but she does it through a character delivery. 475 01:07:44.870 --> 01:07:54.429 Jerry Corley: Anytime you want to do something that might be sensitive, this Kwame Kilpatrick is a little bit of a, I would say, a, controversial 476 01:07:54.890 --> 01:07:59.480 Jerry Corley: Character, but she does it as one of them. 477 01:08:00.340 --> 01:08:02.150 Jerry Corley: One of the Detroit people. 478 01:08:02.150 --> 01:08:27.120 Jerry Corley: you know, just kind of just talking about it, like, it's okay, don't you know, you know, type of thing. And it's like, you know, you just find a new man and you move on. You just gotta move on. Sometimes that happens, right? And it's like, and she has that same voice, they sing sort of Midwestern-heavy, you know, could be Dakota, could be Michigan, could be Upper Peninsula, could be, Canada, you know, and it's like, but people recognize 479 01:08:27.120 --> 01:08:29.959 Jerry Corley: that character, and it gives them a chance to feel what? 480 01:08:30.729 --> 01:08:32.040 Jerry Corley: superior. 481 01:08:32.160 --> 01:08:39.060 Jerry Corley: to that person's feeling, right? And we go, oh yeah, we know this. We're not the ones doing that, but they are. 482 01:08:39.220 --> 01:08:47.719 Jerry Corley: Right? But it's so that embarrassment, you know, you pick something that's embarrassing, we had that… we had Arnold Schwarzenegger as our governor. 483 01:08:48.270 --> 01:08:51.220 Jerry Corley: In California, he couldn't pronounce the state! 484 01:08:52.319 --> 01:09:04.589 Jerry Corley: And he still won the office. That's how fucked up the voters are, people, right? Oh, he sounds like he knows what he's doing, plus those muscles, he'll be able to fight everyone, you know? Instead, he fought no one. 485 01:09:04.969 --> 01:09:07.069 Jerry Corley: and attack the Indians. 486 01:09:07.529 --> 01:09:12.949 Jerry Corley: He was the one responsible for taking the Indians who lived on sovereign land and taxing their casinos. 487 01:09:13.489 --> 01:09:19.059 Jerry Corley: Right? He said, well, that'll be the answer to the budget problem. Guess what? We still have a budget problem. 488 01:09:19.419 --> 01:09:23.389 Jerry Corley: And that land is not really truly sovereign, is it? No. 489 01:09:23.509 --> 01:09:30.169 Jerry Corley: So, in that case, sort of like, you can… now, if you could find those little nuances, you could have fun with it. Cliff, you have your hand up. 490 01:09:30.420 --> 01:09:33.750 Cliff Spenger: Yeah, I was gonna say, she makes it safe to laugh at this stuff. 491 01:09:33.750 --> 01:09:34.869 Jerry Corley: Yeah, yeah! 492 01:09:34.870 --> 01:09:47.410 Cliff Spenger: The way she presents, she could almost talk about anything, and by not going into the weeds with stuff, she just goes for the hit, and even talking about moving on, you're ready to let go of the last thing she was just talking about. 493 01:09:47.890 --> 01:10:02.119 Jerry Corley: Yeah, I love the thing, it's like, you know, people are afraid of scary things. She goes, I'm afraid of this mold. That's what I'm afraid of. I love that. You know, like, what's going on with this mold? I think it's changing a little bit. Is this okay? Does this look okay? And he said, I don't go to the doctor. 494 01:10:02.270 --> 01:10:07.480 Jerry Corley: I just asked my comedian friends, does this look okay? Yeah, it looks fine. Oh, thank God. 495 01:10:07.810 --> 01:10:10.849 Jerry Corley: Right? It's like, and they use that as almost a diagnosis. 496 01:10:10.910 --> 01:10:11.780 Cliff Spenger: But… 497 01:10:11.780 --> 01:10:13.899 Jerry Corley: Don't we all do something like that? 498 01:10:14.370 --> 01:10:14.969 Cliff Spenger: So it's wing. 499 01:10:14.970 --> 01:10:15.350 Jerry Corley: That's… 500 01:10:15.350 --> 01:10:21.089 Cliff Spenger: everything she's saying, don't take it too serious, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. 501 01:10:21.270 --> 01:10:31.080 Jerry Corley: So, yeah, it's definitely a life lesson there. So, if you want to, like, take on… sometimes if you want to take on challenging things, you remove the onus from you. 502 01:10:31.100 --> 01:10:37.780 Jerry Corley: You give it to somebody else, or you make it a different time or a different audience. 503 01:10:37.780 --> 01:10:56.750 Jerry Corley: And then the audience is more willing, this audience is more willing to accept that behavior and laugh at it, because they're not going to be like that other audience who took it too seriously. They want to be superior to that audience, which is how sometimes I'll do my Trump jokes. I'll go, I tried this joke at the comedy store, and the guy wanted to fight me. 504 01:10:56.970 --> 01:11:09.079 Jerry Corley: he wanted to fight me over a joke, right? And I go into how we used to be able to do jokes, it was an American tradition, now suddenly we can't do jokes that are about our president. Maybe it's because, 505 01:11:09.320 --> 01:11:26.830 Jerry Corley: All of that Russian money, people are no longer Americans, right? It's like, you can't… so it's like, maybe that's it. Don't like American traditions anymore, right? So, then I tell… then, why would a guy want to fight you? They're still… so they're hyper-curious about the joke. 506 01:11:27.260 --> 01:11:30.099 Jerry Corley: So they're giving you a green light to tell the joke. 507 01:11:30.340 --> 01:11:43.049 Jerry Corley: So they can't then scold you for telling the joke. Even if they don't agree with the joke, they'll still want to be superior to that audience in Los Angeles, where the guy wanted to fight you, right? We're not going to be him. 508 01:11:43.050 --> 01:11:58.669 Jerry Corley: And then, so that you get a… you wind up taking the onus off of yourself by telling the joke as it was, like, once removed. This happened the other night in this audience. They were a little bit… a little bit… they were a little uptight. Well, we're not uptight. Thank God you guys are drinking, because this audience was uptight. 509 01:11:58.670 --> 01:12:22.070 Jerry Corley: You know? And now they're gonna… now they give you the green light to do it. Similar approach by saying, you know, making that about the way they respond to this Kwame Kilpatrick guy, right? So when she mentioned Kwame Kilpatrick, I was like, I haven't heard that name in a while. Wasn't he that mayor that did cocaine? No. He was the mayor that actually was a con artist and committed fraud. I think the mayor that did crack, he wound up getting less time. 510 01:12:22.510 --> 01:12:27.229 Jerry Corley: Right? So, but he had his sentence committed. You had your hand up, Rana? 511 01:12:30.150 --> 01:12:31.350 Jerry Corley: You're muted. 512 01:12:31.810 --> 01:12:46.430 Ronna J Levy: She doesn't take… like, she… yeah. She doesn't take sides, I think you were just saying that. She just tells it, but she's not favoring, you know, like a political… she's not… so, it's middle of the road, and it's… 513 01:12:46.430 --> 01:12:47.060 Jerry Corley: Damn. 514 01:12:47.060 --> 01:12:49.040 Ronna J Levy: It's easy to digest. 515 01:12:49.040 --> 01:12:52.940 Jerry Corley: Yeah, so it's like, she doesn't… she doesn't, 516 01:12:53.530 --> 01:13:07.689 Jerry Corley: she's not… she doesn't lean one way or the other, she doesn't create that political tension, and she knows it's there, she's very aware of it. You know, I've heard her in interviews talk about how people are so divisive, so she doesn't… she kind of stays in the middle that way. 517 01:13:07.690 --> 01:13:15.699 Jerry Corley: by avoiding taking a side. In this case, like, you know, even when she talks about going to Afghanistan. 518 01:13:15.720 --> 01:13:27.770 Jerry Corley: She doesn't talk about how to go, you know, Afghanistan, because we're in Afghanistan, because I don't know, some president decided, hey, let's go to Afghanistan, because they attacked the World Trade Center. 519 01:13:27.850 --> 01:13:37.440 Jerry Corley: You know? And it's like, that's like going, hey, you know, you know, hey, they're calling, causing all this problem, let's go attack Mexico City. 520 01:13:37.820 --> 01:13:56.170 Jerry Corley: You know, it's like that kind of a thing, but she doesn't go there at all. She just stays going to Afghanistan. And there's the funny part to me. She talks about, I don't know if she got into it in this clip. This is kind of like a compilation clip. They cut some things out. And one of the things that's going to Afghanistan, they had her bunk. 521 01:13:56.310 --> 01:14:01.459 Jerry Corley: in, the comedian's bunk, in the same bunks as the Afghan soldiers. 522 01:14:02.200 --> 01:14:09.039 Jerry Corley: And, she was like, well, can't we, like, be in, like, like, with, like, the Canadians? 523 01:14:09.610 --> 01:14:10.320 Ronna J Levy: Right. 524 01:14:10.320 --> 01:14:16.440 Jerry Corley: And her simple association there is, like, you know, we could share a beer and talk about Wayne Gretzky. 525 01:14:16.620 --> 01:14:22.909 Jerry Corley: You know, and she gets a laugh because she used two things that are identifiable as Canadian. 526 01:14:22.990 --> 01:14:26.960 Jerry Corley: And that's… that's her simple incongruity 527 01:14:26.960 --> 01:14:31.100 Jerry Corley: joke, right there. It's like, you know, why can't we… can't we just… 528 01:14:31.100 --> 01:14:47.309 Jerry Corley: Can't we stay with the Canadians? We can at least drink a share of beer and talk about Wayne Gretzky. So those two, recognizable associations is where she gets a laugh, and she gets a pretty good laugh right there, as simple as that joke is. It doesn't even seem like a joke. 529 01:14:48.010 --> 01:14:51.429 Jerry Corley: We can have a beer and talk about Wayne Gretzky. 530 01:14:51.570 --> 01:15:03.950 Jerry Corley: That simple association, it's incongruity, so it's associative humor. That little moment right there gets a laugh. So it's like, she does that, and then she doesn't get into the weeds of… 531 01:15:05.080 --> 01:15:12.060 Jerry Corley: the history of why the comedians bunk with the Afghanis… Especially female. 532 01:15:12.740 --> 01:15:21.409 Jerry Corley: And it's like, because they don't put them with the male U.S. soldiers, They might get raped! 533 01:15:22.130 --> 01:15:24.089 Jerry Corley: John Mulaney would go there. 534 01:15:25.250 --> 01:15:29.079 Jerry Corley: You know, because we tend to rape people. Often, a lot. 535 01:15:29.480 --> 01:15:42.729 Jerry Corley: Right? And he tells a real solid truth. She doesn't go there. But that's one of the things they talked about in the Atlantic articles, about when, you know, performers were going there, they were staying in the Afghans' 536 01:15:43.350 --> 01:15:51.909 Jerry Corley: accommodations were in their kind of bunks, rather than with the U.S. people, and they were afraid because of… there were some incidents. 537 01:15:51.910 --> 01:16:09.689 Jerry Corley: and the Afghans are so, like, locked into their faith, they're not gonna do anything. They're not doing anything, they're soldiers, right? And it's like, so it was safer for the comedians to be there than with the NATO troops or with the American troops. And it's like, so that's a huge… 538 01:16:09.890 --> 01:16:23.529 Jerry Corley: big deal, right? But she didn't go into that. She stays on the surface and talks about, you know, all of a sudden in the middle of the night, she does this prayer voice, and this is one thing that locked into, like, Maria Bamford. 539 01:16:23.630 --> 01:16:27.159 Jerry Corley: She does the sound of the prayer. 540 01:16:28.050 --> 01:16:50.989 Jerry Corley: And it's great, because she locks it in. She has all the nuances, and the… and she does the whole thing, and it's hysterical. And she goes, and everybody gets out of bed, and it's like, what's going on? We gotta, you know, we're being attacked? And they're like, no, chill out, Kathleen, it's like, it's a call to prayer. And she goes, oh, oh, so yeah, go back to your bunk. 541 01:16:50.990 --> 01:17:02.669 Jerry Corley: Right? And so, and so then, you know, so I went back to my bank, but all these Afghan soldiers got up, laid out their prayer mats, they faced left, I think it was left, it was left, definitely, definitely left. 542 01:17:02.970 --> 01:17:15.249 Jerry Corley: Because, definitely, it's supposed to be to the east, right? And it's like, but she's just left. For me, it was left. And that, to me, I thought that was funny, because a lot of people just say, then you want to turn, then you want to go to the east. 543 01:17:15.350 --> 01:17:30.210 Jerry Corley: You're giving you directions, like, which way is that? Hold on, I… you know, how do I… I don't have a compass, right? And so there's like, then you make a left, that's east. Well, the sun's setting over that way. I didn't even… I don't pay it… that's west, though, right? So it's like, 544 01:17:30.360 --> 01:17:43.839 Jerry Corley: But anyway, she doesn't… she just has a good… a fun way of telling that story about them all doing the prayer, and how, you know, it seemed odd for her, you know, and then she calls back 545 01:17:44.250 --> 01:17:51.310 Jerry Corley: the prayer sound, later on, I think twice more in that bit. Now, when you're doing that with a sound effect. 546 01:17:51.580 --> 01:17:52.929 Jerry Corley: What is that called? 547 01:17:54.350 --> 01:17:55.730 Jerry Corley: Anybody remember? 548 01:17:58.410 --> 01:17:59.750 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Is it an act out? 549 01:18:01.100 --> 01:18:02.909 Cliff Spenger: Is it diegetic interruption? 550 01:18:02.910 --> 01:18:27.850 Jerry Corley: Yes, that's exactly what it is. It's such… and Maria Bamford made that famous. Like, it's in my notes from theater class 30 years ago, and I remember that… now, you know, I do sound effects, too, in my act, but it was like, to see Maria Bamford use it purposely in her storytelling, it's another way to compel people in your story. She does these sound effects, and sometimes the joke 551 01:18:27.850 --> 01:18:32.939 Jerry Corley: wind up being callbacks on the sound effects, she could actually wrap up an entire piece 552 01:18:32.940 --> 01:18:46.580 Jerry Corley: calling back the sound, gets a laugh, goodnight, everybody, and that's an exit, that's an exit moment right there, an end of a bit. Alright, so, let's take a look at that, and let's take, let's apply this 553 01:18:46.590 --> 01:18:53.690 Jerry Corley: towards… Writing a joke. Let me bring up the sheet. Where is it? 554 01:18:54.420 --> 01:18:56.649 Jerry Corley: Go from the video to the sheet. 555 01:19:02.580 --> 01:19:07.439 Jerry Corley: Does anybody else have any other questions about, what she does there? 556 01:19:08.820 --> 01:19:23.489 Jerry Corley: what she's done. Let's, well, I'm sure you'll come up with more, but let's take a look at that, we get into some of her stand-up. Now, let's look at the sort of, like, story breakdown and actually what she's doing. On this, you'll be able to go into even in more detail, because what I did was I put together a table. 557 01:19:23.770 --> 01:19:33.499 Jerry Corley: And the table shows what she's saying, and what's happening there as far as my interpretation of it. 558 01:19:33.720 --> 01:19:37.319 Jerry Corley: And we'll see what, what we kind of come up with there. 559 01:19:41.240 --> 01:19:46.590 Jerry Corley: So, are you… no, you're not seeing this part, let me… Get to that part. 560 01:20:09.210 --> 01:20:13.670 Jerry Corley: Oh, there it is, because I have two versions open, that's why I opened the wrong version. 561 01:20:14.930 --> 01:20:16.340 Jerry Corley: Alright, so… 562 01:20:17.040 --> 01:20:24.330 Jerry Corley: Here's the Detroit bit. She opens, like, it took me 25 years to have enough say-so to finally decide where I wanted to tape my special. 563 01:20:24.730 --> 01:20:30.310 Jerry Corley: And they said, where do you want to go? She makes it a he said, she said. 564 01:20:30.480 --> 01:20:40.660 Jerry Corley: That's how she's telling the story. He said, she saids are a great way to get into the story right away. He, you know, he's like, they said, where do you want to go? I said, Detroit. They cheer. 565 01:20:41.760 --> 01:20:45.370 Jerry Corley: Perfect placement of that, to create community instantly. 566 01:20:46.060 --> 01:20:50.389 Jerry Corley: with that audience, we expand… plus, there was an unexpected, you know. 567 01:20:50.960 --> 01:21:01.869 Jerry Corley: Answer, we expect New York, LA, Vegas, Detroit. Surprise begins right there. Two reasons, I'm not sure I'm fond of all of you. 568 01:21:01.870 --> 01:21:17.840 Jerry Corley: So, in a way, kind of giving them a little friendly dig, as we do with our best friends, so she treats them already like her best friends. It's benign hostility, right? So, it's like, you're just… you're playful with them, and it's a playful superiority, fake insult creates tension. 569 01:21:17.890 --> 01:21:23.049 Jerry Corley: And I know that in Detroit, at any given moment, something weird and bad could happen to all of you. 570 01:21:23.100 --> 01:21:38.779 Jerry Corley: And, because she was like, I'm not sure I'm fond of all of you, and in Detroit, at any given moment, something weird and bad could happen to all of you. It's a little hyperbole, a little dark absurdity there, right? You know, heightened reality. 571 01:21:38.900 --> 01:21:49.380 Jerry Corley: Dan O'Shannon said, take something, come up with something incongruous, and then wildly exaggerate. She does that paints Detroit as chaotic. Certainly has a reputation for that. 572 01:21:49.420 --> 01:21:57.249 Jerry Corley: And then she says the people in Detroit are the most optimistic people. So she goes from making fun 573 01:21:57.250 --> 01:22:13.900 Jerry Corley: to saying something really nice, a nice observation, and why did she come to that conclusion? And then she does their act out, because they're still there. Funny as hell, made me laugh right away. Right? And then she does that, do you understand? You're still… they're still there. And then she… she… 574 01:22:14.080 --> 01:22:25.959 Jerry Corley: goes into authority with, 60 Minutes covered it, 2020 covered it, New York Times covered it. What's the conversation at the dinner table? Something's gonna happen, it's gotta turn around, and she does the act out, right? It's gotta turn around. 575 01:22:25.960 --> 01:22:36.759 Jerry Corley: You know, we have hope, you know, that Kwame Kilpatrick rape was crazy, but you moved on. You gotta move on. You gotta find a better man. You move on, you move on, and find a better man. So she does the act out there. 576 01:22:36.760 --> 01:22:41.539 Jerry Corley: And, like, and then she talks about being from St. Louis. 577 01:22:41.560 --> 01:22:46.670 Jerry Corley: My city and Detroit are flip-flopping between 1 and 2 in murder… in the murder rate. 578 01:22:46.670 --> 01:23:11.610 Jerry Corley: And so what a weird comparison to have. At any moment, you know, it's like, that's why I feel close to you people, because of the murder rate. What a weird reason to feel close, right? So that's a fun little reason to feel connected. At any moment, we found our common ground. We both share in who's the murder capital of the world, right? At any given moment, the shit could get weird. She almost treats it like a championship. 579 01:23:12.150 --> 01:23:17.780 Jerry Corley: And this is what builds to the story at the end. She's this year? Who's number one? Flint. 580 01:23:17.840 --> 01:23:34.920 Jerry Corley: What? Flint? Nobody's even there, right? And so she gets a laugh there, right? It's like, there aren't even any people there. You know, what, are they, shooting people that drive by and counting that? Hey, here's some money, bam! You know, here's another one, we're gonna win this year. 581 01:23:35.100 --> 01:23:54.919 Jerry Corley: So she treats it like it's a game, right? Like it's a challenge, like it's gonna be, like it's a championship of some sort. So this is a fun little way to see every little beat she takes, and how she gets what she's using to get to the laugh, right? So it's comedic irony, saying it without saying it, you know, she rarely says that's insane, she rarely calls it for what it is, she gives a… 582 01:23:54.990 --> 01:24:09.140 Jerry Corley: sort of an innuendo of what it is. She gives sort of the… she says it without saying it, the most optimistic people, because they're still there. Holy shit, that's funny, right? So, she doesn't say Detroit is broken. 583 01:24:09.430 --> 01:24:18.020 Jerry Corley: and dangerous. She basically says the audience is still there. And it's like, that's what makes it funny. They know what's going on in Detroit. 584 01:24:18.040 --> 01:24:29.559 Jerry Corley: Right? No alcohol in Afghanistan. That's the… the more I… you know, the more I understood their anger, right? If this is true, what else could be true? She has exaggeration. 585 01:24:29.560 --> 01:24:42.380 Jerry Corley: She reframes it, basically, there's no alcohol. If that's true, what else could be true? Based on the fact that I like to drink to unwind and I can't do that? Now I understand their anger. Makes sense. Great way to piece that together. 586 01:24:42.380 --> 01:24:50.809 Jerry Corley: Never says terrorism makes sense. She just implies absurd empathy. You know, that's what creates the laugh. She, 587 01:24:50.830 --> 01:25:05.520 Jerry Corley: she gets rewarded, or she gets the laugh by connecting the dots. That's the puzzle solving we do in comedy. You know, we puzzle solve. We come up with something and say, this is why this pays off, here's the solution, and you say it without saying it. 588 01:25:06.290 --> 01:25:17.230 Jerry Corley: 49 cents, and somebody will take your piece of paper to Alaska. That's amazing. That's what she's doing right there, right? So, in this, let's take an exercise. Let's take these premises. 589 01:25:18.010 --> 01:25:21.640 Jerry Corley: Choose one, or two, or three, if you're Cliff. 590 01:25:23.080 --> 01:25:25.020 Jerry Corley: And, 591 01:25:25.490 --> 01:25:50.240 Jerry Corley: talk about either DMV employees, write down 3 traits of DMV employees, and then find a way to say it in a story without saying it. So, DMV employees, man, they're like, they have zero personality. Like, they're like, they don't care. They really don't care, whether you're… you're a felon or not. They're just, we gotta process this 592 01:25:50.240 --> 01:26:12.420 Jerry Corley: And it's like, so what else is that like? Airport security, same thing, TSA, they have no real emotional commitment to it. Hoa boards, homeowners associations, oh my god, these guys are more annoying than a TSA. Thank God I'm not in a homeowners association. Customer service chatbots? 593 01:26:12.820 --> 01:26:32.470 Jerry Corley: That's… it's like, are they… are they… are they even ever providing any service? That's such a weird name. That's like calling a hooker a pleasure specialist, right? What else could you find? That's like, what analogy could you find? Would you see how much fun you could have with that piece? So, pick one to three. 594 01:26:33.420 --> 01:26:41.689 Jerry Corley: And… well, one thing I did with the DMV is, like, it's like, when I said, what if this was, like, if this was an emergency room at the hospital? 595 01:26:42.350 --> 01:26:57.370 Jerry Corley: You know, if DMV basically ran the emergency rooms at the hospital, like, we would just all agree to, can you just give me some, you know, what, Penethal or fentanyl, until I just, like. 596 01:26:57.640 --> 01:27:00.590 Jerry Corley: My flat line, because… I can't… 597 01:27:00.770 --> 01:27:06.079 Jerry Corley: I can't handle this. So you could have something like that, could be fun. 598 01:27:06.330 --> 01:27:08.059 Jerry Corley: So, it's like, 599 01:27:08.280 --> 01:27:20.790 Jerry Corley: So, and I took that, I also compared it to Home Depot there. So, in a way, the DMV is inefficient. What do they have, what makes them inefficient? And now we can start from that. You're sort of breaking it down to its simpler. 600 01:27:20.920 --> 01:27:39.879 Jerry Corley: basic elements of what that experience is like, and then telling the story. So I'll give you 10 minutes to choose 1 to 3 of these premises, unless you have your own premise that you want to choose, and then find a way to tell that, and use some of the innuendo and 601 01:27:40.280 --> 01:27:51.099 Jerry Corley: sort of like, if this is true, what else is true? And what else is this like, sort of thing, like Kathleen Madigan does. Do I have any questions with that, right there? 602 01:27:53.440 --> 01:28:00.389 Jerry Corley: Let's see if I can see. Nobody has a hand up? Okay, good. Does anybody have a hand up? I can't really see. No. No, yes, no. 603 01:28:00.910 --> 01:28:03.780 Jerry Corley: Doesn't look like it. Okay, you're good. So, 10 minutes. 604 01:28:04.430 --> 01:28:14.839 Jerry Corley: Using that same technique, take one to three of these premises and write your own. Rana, are you okay with it? You've got this idea? You got it? You understand where we're going with this? 605 01:28:15.050 --> 01:28:17.989 Jerry Corley: Good. Alright, we'll see you guys in 10 minutes. 606 01:45:45.580 --> 01:45:53.130 Jerry Corley: Here we go. Alright, let's see what we came up in. Janet, you got your hand up. What do you got? 607 01:45:54.970 --> 01:46:01.619 Janet Rapala: Trying to hit… okay, I got a couple. First one's kind of short. I wanted to experiment with backing out of material. 608 01:46:01.810 --> 01:46:08.089 Janet Rapala: Okay, my oncology doc gave me a 50-50 chance of living a year. Of course, I reject that. 609 01:46:09.110 --> 01:46:11.440 Janet Rapala: Diagnosis or sentence. 610 01:46:11.690 --> 01:46:22.880 Janet Rapala: But she did give me an application for a disability placard license plate for my car. Well, the DMV knows more than my doctor, obviously, because that placard says, no expiration date. 611 01:46:23.030 --> 01:46:24.790 Janet Rapala: I rest my case. 612 01:46:26.270 --> 01:46:44.889 Jerry Corley: Really nice, yeah, yeah. Plus, there's that tension, right? It's the tension, the friction from, you know, a diagnosis or a prognosis, and instead, you blow it out of the water because you got your prognosis from some other experts at the DMV. Yeah. Right? So that's… 613 01:46:44.890 --> 01:46:46.420 Janet Rapala: Expiration date, so… 614 01:46:46.420 --> 01:46:50.689 Jerry Corley: CMV knows me better than these doctors. They've been with me since I was 15 and a half. 615 01:46:50.690 --> 01:46:51.470 Janet Rapala: Exactly. 616 01:46:51.470 --> 01:47:01.490 Jerry Corley: That's really good. So you could take that even further. If this is true, what else is true? I like that. Jim Barnes does a joke that's kind of in the same realm as that. He was like, I, 617 01:47:01.490 --> 01:47:23.860 Jerry Corley: basically, you know, with, he says, you know, he's talking about having skin cancer and dealing with that. He says, you know, the average lifespan of a man in the United States is 76, I think it is, right? He says 76 or 73, whatever he came up with. And he's like, he said, but I've heard some other… from other… I don't plan to… I plan to live much longer than that. 618 01:47:23.860 --> 01:47:29.139 Jerry Corley: You know, in fact, I know that I'm gonna die at around 91. 619 01:47:29.990 --> 01:47:34.380 Jerry Corley: And he's like, and I heard this from a couple of experts who did my home mortgage. 620 01:47:35.660 --> 01:47:36.220 Jerry Corley: Right? 621 01:47:36.220 --> 01:47:36.610 Janet Rapala: So it's. 622 01:47:36.610 --> 01:47:48.999 Jerry Corley: Really good, really, because see the similarity there? It's like Kathleen Madigan and Louis C.K, satellite phones and, 49 cents to go to Alaska. And it was like, you know, where else… 623 01:47:49.010 --> 01:47:58.619 Jerry Corley: Can you pay 49 cents to go to Alaska, right? To have anybody take anything to Alaska. I think that's great. Really good. Really good. What else you got? What's the other one? 624 01:47:58.620 --> 01:48:08.420 Janet Rapala: The second one, and let me preface this with, I was a former ER trauma nurse at a level 1 trauma hospital, so I know what goes on behind the scenes more than people in the waiting room, but my thing is. 625 01:48:08.420 --> 01:48:09.740 Jerry Corley: My thing… 626 01:48:09.740 --> 01:48:24.740 Janet Rapala: The thing is, ERs are not there to take care of you. They don't really want to work. You're interrupting their pizza party. Two, they're rude and impatient. And three, they make you wait for long periods in the waiting room. So, I had a stomach tube fall out, and the surgeon told me to go to the ER. 627 01:48:24.880 --> 01:48:27.759 Janet Rapala: In the ER, they said, well, who told you to come here? 628 01:48:27.990 --> 01:48:36.809 Janet Rapala: We don't do that here. Well, we'll call surgery and see what they have to say. So I asked, could they just bolus the propofol? And the PA said, no, that ain't gonna happen. 629 01:48:37.000 --> 01:48:52.070 Janet Rapala: So the PA returned with a stomach tube, but they just raw-dogged inserted it with just some lidocaine jelly, no medication, whatever, and I felt every bit of that anger and resentment with that tube going in, let me tell you. But I did say thank you for helping me when I was down. 630 01:48:52.980 --> 01:48:59.850 Jerry Corley: Oh, that's… so what is… what is that like, when you say thank you? It's almost like, you ever get a ticket from a cop? 631 01:49:00.160 --> 01:49:04.220 Jerry Corley: And you wind up… weirdly, you say, oh, yeah, thank you. 632 01:49:05.040 --> 01:49:10.270 Jerry Corley: Why did I say that? No, not thank you. I don't need a thank you, asshole, right? 633 01:49:10.270 --> 01:49:14.369 Janet Rapala: You just punched me in the gut with no help. 634 01:49:14.650 --> 01:49:23.310 Jerry Corley: I love that. Without… now, what is getting a tube? It was down… it was through your mouth? 635 01:49:23.310 --> 01:49:27.050 Janet Rapala: It's not my job, it's not… no, it's in my… it's in my stomach. 636 01:49:27.050 --> 01:49:27.779 Jerry Corley: Did they put. 637 01:49:27.780 --> 01:49:29.420 Janet Rapala: It's not my job, man. 638 01:49:29.980 --> 01:49:32.000 Jerry Corley: So how did they get to your stomach? 639 01:49:32.000 --> 01:49:34.489 Janet Rapala: Oh, I have a hole there where a tube fell out. 640 01:49:34.660 --> 01:49:37.359 Jerry Corley: And they just used, like, a local… 641 01:49:37.650 --> 01:49:39.510 Janet Rapala: They just use some lidocaine jelly. 642 01:49:39.510 --> 01:49:41.380 Jerry Corley: Holy… Shit! 643 01:49:41.380 --> 01:49:49.819 Janet Rapala: Well, yeah, it was a son of a bitch, let me tell ya. But I… and I felt every bit of that anger and resentment for them having to do something they didn't want to do. 644 01:49:49.820 --> 01:49:55.469 Jerry Corley: Why did… I don't know why they would go the cheap route, I mean, I have Medicaid. 645 01:49:55.790 --> 01:49:59.590 Jerry Corley: Or Medicare. I have Medicare, it's gonna get paid, right? 646 01:49:59.590 --> 01:50:00.720 Janet Rapala: Exactly! 647 01:50:00.720 --> 01:50:06.009 Jerry Corley: Like, cause it's under… it's guaranteed by the full faith and credit of the U.S. government. 648 01:50:06.010 --> 01:50:11.419 Janet Rapala: The surgeon sent me there, so that kind of trumps their wanting to do something, you know, that they don't think is their job. 649 01:50:11.420 --> 01:50:12.850 Jerry Corley: My GOD! 650 01:50:13.140 --> 01:50:21.620 Jerry Corley: Wow. Wow, yeah, that's a great story. Now, also, if you kind of explain a little more detail about what… so we can. 651 01:50:21.620 --> 01:50:22.010 Janet Rapala: What, what? 652 01:50:22.010 --> 01:50:31.819 Jerry Corley: Did you feel the pain? Like, when you said, in your stomach, because you had a tube there, and it came out, I think when you defined that at the beginning, it got kind of lost. You swallowed those words a little bit. 653 01:50:31.820 --> 01:50:32.369 Janet Rapala: Yeah, yeah. 654 01:50:32.370 --> 01:50:44.510 Jerry Corley: So, the tube came out, and they had to go in and reinsert it. And so, I was like, can you give me some, like, you know, propofil or something? Oh, that's not gonna happen. They gave you, like, a local. 655 01:50:44.690 --> 01:50:45.580 Jerry Corley: Right? 656 01:50:45.580 --> 01:50:46.550 Janet Rapala: I'm not even the local. 657 01:50:46.550 --> 01:50:47.010 Jerry Corley: like… 658 01:50:47.010 --> 01:50:55.569 Janet Rapala: jelly! They didn't inject lidocaine around it. No, they just used the jelly, which, you know, that's pretty… I mean, you put that on a sunburn, for God's sake. 659 01:50:55.570 --> 01:51:19.669 Jerry Corley: biopsied… yes, exactly. So you put that on a sunburn, that's funny, right? There we go, now we're getting to some… there's some associated, like, feelings. I go, I like that. Good, good, I like that. There's more there, too, because, man, that's compelling. I just wanted… I know you didn't have… we didn't have much time to do it, but I think there's definitely something there. Plus, you're taking such a tragic moment, and you're making it funny. That's wild, right? 660 01:51:19.670 --> 01:51:22.030 Janet Rapala: Interrupting your pizza party, I'm sorry! 661 01:51:22.030 --> 01:51:25.639 Jerry Corley: Yeah, it's like, I could smell the pizza, and they didn't even offer me any. 662 01:51:26.360 --> 01:51:28.489 Jerry Corley: Least you get to do is offer me a slice. 663 01:51:29.020 --> 01:51:32.759 Jerry Corley: Right? So that's funny, they're good, I like it. Kaz, you get your hand up. 664 01:51:33.540 --> 01:51:34.330 Janet Rapala: Thank you. 665 01:51:37.130 --> 01:51:38.200 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Sorry. 666 01:51:38.720 --> 01:51:44.160 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Okay, I don't know… I don't think I did this right, but I did something. 667 01:51:44.680 --> 01:51:45.060 Jerry Corley: Mmm. 668 01:51:45.060 --> 01:51:49.409 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Okay, waiting at the Social Security office… 669 01:51:50.240 --> 01:51:54.300 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Reminds me of being at Carnegie Deli in New York City. 670 01:51:54.580 --> 01:52:00.120 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: The wait is so long, I forgot that Carnegie shut down in 2016. 671 01:52:02.330 --> 01:52:07.340 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: I couldn't figure out, like, how to say it without saying it. I was having difficulty with that. 672 01:52:07.340 --> 01:52:24.699 Jerry Corley: So, yeah, so you're almost… analogy, and the analogy is saying it without saying it, right? That's a form of saying it without saying it. So Kathleen Magin uses a simile, and when somebody says, hello, sunshine, her face was sunshine. 673 01:52:25.220 --> 01:52:28.290 Jerry Corley: That's a simile. Her face was like… 674 01:52:29.250 --> 01:52:32.119 Jerry Corley: Is more of an analogy, you know? 675 01:52:32.120 --> 01:52:45.099 Jerry Corley: you know, it was like, her face was sunshine in the morning. You know, it's like a ray of sunshine in the morning. That's a simile, but an analogy is alike. So it's a way of saying it without saying it. What she does… 676 01:52:45.100 --> 01:52:53.460 Jerry Corley: Is she pulls back a little bit from it, and explains, basically, the basics of what's happening, and what else could that be? 677 01:52:53.470 --> 01:53:07.479 Jerry Corley: So in that case, like, waiting at the DMV, you're standing in line to stand in another line to sit on uncomfortable chairs while you're waiting to stand in another line. 678 01:53:08.840 --> 01:53:14.349 Jerry Corley: You know? So it's like, that's one… once you just describe it like that, people start to laugh. 679 01:53:14.490 --> 01:53:23.870 Jerry Corley: And they'll show some… sometimes on their screens, they show PSAs in California. Like, it's like, don't flush your pharmaceuticals. 680 01:53:25.320 --> 01:53:31.219 Jerry Corley: That's one thing I noticed for the last time I was there. Don't flush your pharmaceuticals, because they wind up in the water. 681 01:53:32.110 --> 01:53:34.409 Jerry Corley: And I was like, wait a second… 682 01:53:35.440 --> 01:53:51.060 Jerry Corley: maybe that's why I was getting so thirsty at the DMV. My body was crazing some sort of drug so I could get through this experience, right? It's like, maybe that could be part of it, too. It's like… it's like, it's like, don't flush your pharmaceuticals? No, give them to me! 683 01:53:51.060 --> 01:54:08.659 Jerry Corley: Because I'm sitting here waiting at the DMV. You know, that could be a way of saying it, like, what is your feeling of going through there? How could we remedy that? What's… what exactly is going on? And you just sort of walk… you walk in, you can't even walk in, you gotta wait in line to walk in. 684 01:54:08.660 --> 01:54:13.409 Jerry Corley: So you're in line, you finally get in, they send you to another line. 685 01:54:13.790 --> 01:54:22.209 Jerry Corley: Where you wait, they send… then they send you, give you a number, and then they have you sit down while you're waiting to get into another line. 686 01:54:22.380 --> 01:54:24.059 Jerry Corley: And it's like, you know. 687 01:54:24.060 --> 01:54:26.620 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: And then they tell you you have the wrong form. 688 01:54:26.910 --> 01:54:29.600 Jerry Corley: Right. Oh my gosh, yes. 689 01:54:29.600 --> 01:54:30.930 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: That's Social Security. 690 01:54:31.510 --> 01:54:33.699 Jerry Corley: Right, there you go. So that's, 691 01:54:34.460 --> 01:54:40.680 Jerry Corley: That's one, you know, that's a… it's like basically Social Security without the charisma. 692 01:54:42.250 --> 01:54:50.850 Jerry Corley: None of them have charisma, you know? The only charisma I ever got there is when I took a test. I had to take a test because I was, at the time, teaching traffic school. 693 01:54:51.010 --> 01:55:03.200 Jerry Corley: And, so you have to take a test every year. So I took a test, and I got 100 on the test. And I got every answer right. And the lady goes, oh my gosh! You got everything right? 694 01:55:04.030 --> 01:55:08.120 Jerry Corley: You know, you got that, it was, she said that some, 695 01:55:08.350 --> 01:55:15.660 Jerry Corley: I said, it's… you got 100% everything right. I go, is that rare? She goes, no. 696 01:55:16.270 --> 01:55:21.019 Jerry Corley: I said, is that uncommon? She goes, no, but it's rare. 697 01:55:24.430 --> 01:55:27.589 Jerry Corley: I go, oh, and you're giving me the test? Okay. 698 01:55:27.620 --> 01:55:45.660 Jerry Corley: It's good to know. So, you could have fun with that. That's just a sort of a character, he said, she said, act out, right? So, it's a different way to do that. And sometimes I'll ask myself when I'm telling a story and I want to find a way of saying it without saying it, I can say, what could be a he-said-she-said that happens in this… 699 01:55:45.660 --> 01:56:02.419 Jerry Corley: In this environment. What am I… essentially, what am I trying to say at the DMP? Pleasant experience? Unpleasant experience? Was it boring? Is it a waste… seemingly a waste of time? And then I love the ending, the irony of getting through… going through all this shit to realize 700 01:56:02.640 --> 01:56:04.839 Jerry Corley: You had the wrong form. 701 01:56:05.980 --> 01:56:14.079 Jerry Corley: So, that's funny. You get to go through the whole thing, you finally get through the challenge of just going to the DM. It was easier to get sober. 702 01:56:14.330 --> 01:56:27.120 Jerry Corley: Then we go to the DMV, so that could be funny, too. So, yeah, so I think you're getting it, you're getting it. You're getting it. It's just a matter of, I think sometimes you overthink it, and you want it to be perfect. 703 01:56:27.120 --> 01:56:34.910 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: I kinda don't get it… no, well, I know you said I'm getting it, but I kind of don't get it, so let… let me tell you the other one, so… 704 01:56:36.730 --> 01:56:52.590 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: My friend said that they raised his monthly HOI payments again, and I asked him what HOA stands for, and he says, homely, obnoxious assholes. And I looked at him and said, you don't look that homely. 705 01:56:55.080 --> 01:56:58.279 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: So, but I don't think that's what you mean by this exercise. 706 01:56:58.280 --> 01:57:23.220 Jerry Corley: So, there's a… that's a pivot on the way to the bigger joke. So, basically, the HOA raising their rates is kind of like the theme of, you know, it's HOAs. We… we know what HOAs are, and it's like, homeowners associations. I fortunately, I only had to deal with one once when I owned a condo, but, since then, I said I never want to deal with homeowners associations. 707 01:57:23.220 --> 01:57:33.519 Jerry Corley: again, they're just a bunch of people that they think, they all… they… none of them were able to become the president of PTA, and now they want to feel like they have some sort of power on 708 01:57:33.520 --> 01:57:40.579 Jerry Corley: They have new lives. They have, oh my gosh, so bad, so stupid. And it's like, 709 01:57:40.620 --> 01:57:52.139 Jerry Corley: So, I think, there is, there's definitely a feeling there. People would relate to it. And, you know, being bossed around by, you know. 710 01:57:52.340 --> 01:58:05.219 Jerry Corley: People that don't really have any reason to boss you around. They're just looking for power, in a way. So I think there's… where else do we find that? 711 01:58:05.480 --> 01:58:17.219 Jerry Corley: And it's like, you ever have somebody that gets, it's people who misunderstand leadership for, you know, hey, they get promoted to being a boss or a supervisor, so automatically, suddenly they become mean? 712 01:58:18.120 --> 01:58:21.709 Jerry Corley: Because they equate leadership with being mean. 713 01:58:22.420 --> 01:58:25.839 Jerry Corley: You know, I'm gonna show you who's in charge. Cops do that. 714 01:58:26.480 --> 01:58:31.670 Jerry Corley: Rather than they get a lot more done if they're like, hey, so I… 715 01:58:32.170 --> 01:58:43.480 Jerry Corley: you know, I saw you doing, like, you know, you were doing 78, and you know the speed limit's 65, right? So, you know, they're trying to see if there's anything else going on. 716 01:58:43.660 --> 01:58:59.790 Jerry Corley: Right? And then so they ask some questions, and then you're like, you know, you could be receptive or not receptive. You know, so, yeah, I tell you what we're gonna do. I'm just gonna give you a warning now. You know, please don't let me see you do that again. I'm in this corridor all the time. 717 01:58:59.790 --> 01:59:05.860 Jerry Corley: I don't want to have to have to give you a ticket. And you know what? Every time I go through that corridor, I slow down. 718 01:59:06.340 --> 01:59:10.919 Jerry Corley: As soon as I'm outside the corridor, I give it a little gas. But the thing is, it's like. 719 01:59:11.110 --> 01:59:15.979 Jerry Corley: His talk was much more effective at changing my behavior than being an asshole. 720 01:59:16.450 --> 01:59:28.599 Jerry Corley: Right? So it worked. But in this case, like, where else do we see that? Like, where else do we see that? What, you know, let's take it to other personal relationships. You ever ask your girlfriend if she wants to do anal? 721 01:59:28.950 --> 01:59:36.050 Jerry Corley: And she's like, ew, you're gross, what are you, a pervert? You'll never ask anything again. 722 01:59:37.420 --> 01:59:38.889 Jerry Corley: But what if… 723 01:59:39.290 --> 01:59:46.850 Jerry Corley: You know, you said, like, hey, would you like to try this? And instead of her going gross, said. 724 01:59:47.030 --> 01:59:49.790 Jerry Corley: Well, what if we tried this? 725 01:59:51.210 --> 01:59:52.890 Jerry Corley: You're like, yeah! 726 01:59:53.350 --> 01:59:56.820 Jerry Corley: Now it changes the nature of the entire interaction. 727 01:59:56.820 --> 02:00:16.099 Jerry Corley: Right? Or it's like, there have been, like, in male-female marriage situations, relationship situations, a guy comes up behind his wife, she's doing the dishes, he puts his hand around her waist and kind of then raises his hand up to her boobs and goes, hey, you wanna get a… ew, just, oh, gross! Like, that's all you ever think about! 728 02:00:18.950 --> 02:00:22.340 Jerry Corley: What are the chances of that ever happening again? 729 02:00:23.450 --> 02:00:24.110 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Never. 730 02:00:24.110 --> 02:00:31.060 Jerry Corley: zero, right? That's gone. I will never… you can just whack that dog with the newspaper in the nose. 731 02:00:31.830 --> 02:00:34.229 Jerry Corley: So, what if there was, like. 732 02:00:34.510 --> 02:00:47.059 Jerry Corley: could you at least wait until I'm done washing the dishes, you know, and then we'll talk about maybe, you know, that kind of thing. You know, it's like, oh, you scared me, or something like that, rather than this, like, visceral… 733 02:00:47.170 --> 02:01:03.110 Jerry Corley: reaction. So, in those types of situations, you can sort of, like, map… what is that… what else is it like? And you can go something that's almost not related, but it is related, in a sense. That the interaction with people in certain situations is like, ugh. 734 02:01:03.600 --> 02:01:19.620 Jerry Corley: You know, how does that convert to personal relationships? And it's like, people can totally relate to it. All you're doing is finding an associated idea that somebody can relate to that's different, but in the way you describe it, also similar. 735 02:01:20.820 --> 02:01:27.350 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Okay, this last one is quick. My daughter… this actually happened on Mother's Day. 736 02:01:27.510 --> 02:01:43.590 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: I was wearing a new top for Mother's Day, and it's spelled out M-O-T-H-E-R on the front, and my daughter said, hey, Mom, that's spelled wrong. I said, I looked down and said, no, it's not, it's spelled correctly. No, it should be B-I-T-C-H. 737 02:01:47.460 --> 02:01:54.190 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: I was proud of my daughter, that was really good of her to think of that. I actually looked down and went, oh, I actually have the shirt on now. 738 02:01:54.190 --> 02:02:04.140 Jerry Corley: That's so funny. Yeah, that's good. It's like, that's good. See, she wouldn't, no, she wouldn't win any spelling bees, but she certainly got a good laugh out of that. That was good, yeah. 739 02:02:04.330 --> 02:02:04.910 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: So… 740 02:02:04.910 --> 02:02:14.660 Jerry Corley: And you could even, mix it in with… there was a story you told recently just about your daughter, where you had to sort of, like… she didn't… she wasn't… she wasn't… 741 02:02:15.030 --> 02:02:19.800 Jerry Corley: Oh, she'll let you know at the last minute she was doing something, and it kind of screwed up your planning. 742 02:02:21.640 --> 02:02:33.699 Jerry Corley: Remember, we were talking about you making and being able to attend the Vegas, workshop, and you were like, oh, it turns out my daughter, she just told me, and she was like, alright, and you put in an ARG face in there. 743 02:02:34.270 --> 02:02:44.300 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Yeah, so I had to find out, because it's her birthday, and, you know, if I was to plan something during her birthday, she'd be mad, but she already had planned something, and forgot to tell me. 744 02:02:44.480 --> 02:02:46.399 Jerry Corley: Got it. Makes sense. 745 02:02:47.860 --> 02:03:12.819 Jerry Corley: Good, good, good, good, good. And this is like, this is something in storytelling, it's a… it's a technique, it's a skill in storytelling. It's like learning how to play a riff on a guitar. It takes practice. And once you get good at it, all of a sudden, it starts almost effortless. So it's like, you keep practicing with that technique, it's a great technique for storytelling. And just watching Kathleen Mag again and breaking it down, fortunately, we have video, we can 746 02:03:12.820 --> 02:03:16.940 Jerry Corley: and go, go back and check out and watch how she does that. Cliff, what do you got? 747 02:03:17.600 --> 02:03:32.070 Cliff Spenger: Sure. The time of waiting at the DMV is like waiting to be seen at the ER. In one, you have time to consider your crappy car choices, and the other, you have time to consider your crappy life choices. 748 02:03:35.220 --> 02:03:36.110 Jerry Corley: That's good. 749 02:03:36.460 --> 02:03:39.089 Cliff Spenger: Thank you. Going… oh, go ahead. 750 02:03:39.090 --> 02:04:01.850 Jerry Corley: No, what I was doing is, like, maybe show some, then I was waiting to see what was the… what were the incidents that caused that to happen, and then you could expand further from there. This is one of those examples of every time you hit a new piece of information, it leads to another piece of information, which means you could technically write a joke that goes forever. 751 02:04:01.910 --> 02:04:02.520 Jerry Corley: You know? 752 02:04:02.520 --> 02:04:12.569 Cliff Spenger: Yeah, right. And other jokes on the way to these jokes, because just the, in all of these, just the initials, you got that side joke of… of interpreting the initials. 753 02:04:12.570 --> 02:04:17.759 Jerry Corley: And why do I, when I go to the DMV, do I always feel like I'm going into the principal's office? 754 02:04:17.890 --> 02:04:24.120 Jerry Corley: You know, you're like, okay, there's always that little existential dread that's a… they're gonna find something. 755 02:04:24.120 --> 02:04:28.630 Cliff Spenger: Well, at least you're gonna be eye-tested, and at my age, that's a thing. 756 02:04:28.630 --> 02:04:29.880 Jerry Corley: free. 757 02:04:29.880 --> 02:04:30.490 Cliff Spenger: test. 758 02:04:30.850 --> 02:04:38.080 Jerry Corley: That's why I don't have medical insurance, but I have medical on my car insurance, so if I need to see a doctor, I'm just gonna get in a car crash. 759 02:04:40.240 --> 02:04:42.930 Cliff Spenger: Well, if you don't take care of your eyes, it'll just happen. 760 02:04:44.700 --> 02:04:48.129 Cliff Spenger: Going through airport security after going outside to smoke. 761 02:04:48.310 --> 02:04:51.959 Cliff Spenger: is, like, going… going… coming into the house during Christmas. 762 02:04:52.580 --> 02:04:54.889 Cliff Spenger: After smoking, your grandmother is a narc. 763 02:04:55.000 --> 02:04:56.130 Cliff Spenger: A big narc. 764 02:04:57.790 --> 02:04:58.440 Cliff Spenger: That's funny. 765 02:04:58.440 --> 02:05:01.920 Jerry Corley: Especially if, like, if you're smoking weed and they could smell the weed. 766 02:05:02.150 --> 02:05:04.359 Cliff Spenger: Yeah, I guess I could have added that. 767 02:05:04.580 --> 02:05:17.580 Cliff Spenger: But either one, you know, you'd be… you'd be scrutinized a little bit. Yeah. We don't hear from our HOA board much. They're kind of like my sex life. They're all practically dead. 768 02:05:19.440 --> 02:05:20.080 Jerry Corley: Funny. 769 02:05:20.350 --> 02:05:24.489 Cliff Spenger: Let's see… oh, I did that one, I did that one. Oh, hang on. 770 02:05:25.040 --> 02:05:35.209 Cliff Spenger: called the cable company about last year's service. I told them it was, like my sex life, intermittent, weak, and unfulfilling. 771 02:05:35.470 --> 02:05:43.759 Jerry Corley: Nice, good. Yeah, that's a very good analogy right there. So using that analogy to say it without saying it, that's good. All right, good, nice job. 772 02:05:43.760 --> 02:05:46.060 Cliff Spenger: Yeah, I could change all that. I have one last one. 773 02:05:46.060 --> 02:05:47.510 Jerry Corley: Oh, go ahead, yeah, go ahead. 774 02:05:47.510 --> 02:05:57.229 Cliff Spenger: Called up the customer service chatbots all the time, I call them up. Unlike 900 numbers, they don't cost anything, I can talk as dirty as I want, and they never hang up. 775 02:05:57.900 --> 02:06:01.580 Jerry Corley: Nice! Customer service chatbots. That's a fun… 776 02:06:01.580 --> 02:06:04.470 Cliff Spenger: 900 numbers. They still exist, don't they? 777 02:06:04.470 --> 02:06:08.079 Jerry Corley: Yeah, they do. Yeah, they do. Late at night, they still run those commercials. 778 02:06:08.210 --> 02:06:11.390 Jerry Corley: And those, unlike TBS or something like that. 779 02:06:11.390 --> 02:06:12.040 Cliff Spenger: Yeah. 780 02:06:12.310 --> 02:06:18.249 Jerry Corley: And so they're still there, even though, you know, some people still use them, I guess. I've never called one. 781 02:06:18.600 --> 02:06:23.589 Cliff Spenger: Well, I haven't heard about him lately much, or comedians talk about him, so… 782 02:06:23.590 --> 02:06:24.340 Jerry Corley: Cut the cable. 783 02:06:24.340 --> 02:06:25.939 Cliff Spenger: They still have them. Yeah. 784 02:06:26.630 --> 02:06:27.239 Jerry Corley: We don't talk… 785 02:06:27.240 --> 02:06:28.600 Cliff Spenger: corn. Yeah. 786 02:06:29.060 --> 02:06:29.760 Jerry Corley: Lena? 787 02:06:32.840 --> 02:06:35.790 LINA: Alright, this is kinda long. That's okay. 788 02:06:36.510 --> 02:06:38.610 LINA: I was ordered to do AA. 789 02:06:38.800 --> 02:06:42.279 LINA: I'm not saying I have trouble with drinking, but… 790 02:06:42.380 --> 02:06:44.710 LINA: a judge ordered me to go to AA. 791 02:06:45.010 --> 02:06:47.930 LINA: And it wasn't for anything big. 792 02:06:48.430 --> 02:06:52.839 LINA: Only for kicking a cop while going to the TSA at the Burbank Airport. 793 02:06:54.030 --> 02:06:55.550 LINA: Just a couple years ago. 794 02:06:56.060 --> 02:07:06.750 LINA: And the thing is, I didn't ever want to talk about it, because I didn't want to soil my reputation, I didn't want people to know about it and judge me. 795 02:07:07.040 --> 02:07:09.620 LINA: But the first person I told. 796 02:07:10.520 --> 02:07:12.979 LINA: when I got arrested was my mother. 797 02:07:13.570 --> 02:07:16.139 LINA: And… she told everyone. 798 02:07:16.870 --> 02:07:19.909 LINA: So, she soiled my reputation for me. 799 02:07:20.390 --> 02:07:23.690 LINA: And people wonder why I didn't even send her flowers on Mother's Day. 800 02:07:23.690 --> 02:07:25.980 Jerry Corley: I also… 801 02:07:25.980 --> 02:07:39.830 LINA: I also wanted to say, but I want to put it later, like, you know, I used to go to 8 meetings at the Rainbow and the Comedy Store. That's like a sex addict going to a brothel, like the Bunny Ranch or the Chicken Ranch to… 802 02:07:40.920 --> 02:07:42.160 LINA: become asinant. 803 02:07:43.020 --> 02:07:53.349 Jerry Corley: Yeah, that's good, yeah, like a, that's like a, that's like a, a sex addict, going through their, like, sobriety at the bunny ranch. 804 02:07:53.930 --> 02:07:55.690 Jerry Corley: Can you tighten it? Yeah. 805 02:07:55.690 --> 02:07:58.000 LINA: Abstinence, though, or… 806 02:07:58.570 --> 02:08:18.039 Jerry Corley: Sobriety might be good, because, you know, kind of AA is that way, you're tying it into AA, it's like going through, trying to reach sobriety by going to the bunny ranch. Trying to reach sobriety by going to the bunny ranch might be a good, good way to say that. Because it's still, like, you're still, still going to the meetings. Going to the meetings! 807 02:08:18.550 --> 02:08:23.660 Jerry Corley: You can maybe say that, like a sex addict going to meetings at the bunny Ranch. 808 02:08:24.000 --> 02:08:25.720 LINA: Going to meetings and… okay. 809 02:08:25.720 --> 02:08:28.229 Jerry Corley: Not even tighten it up that way, conflate it a little bit. 810 02:08:28.520 --> 02:08:33.199 Cliff Spenger: If you want to say sex sobriety, I mean, you could say sex sobriety each time. 811 02:08:33.360 --> 02:08:37.050 Jerry Corley: There you go, sex, sobriety, what is that? My parents' marriage? 812 02:08:37.050 --> 02:08:42.730 Cliff Spenger: Sobriety. You keep saying sobriety about the bunny ranch, and it's about this… it's abstinence you're talking about. 813 02:08:42.730 --> 02:08:43.120 Jerry Corley: Yeah. 814 02:08:43.120 --> 02:08:46.149 Cliff Spenger: sex sobriety, then that's… might mean the same. 815 02:08:46.150 --> 02:08:50.259 Jerry Corley: Sex sobriety, I get it, so abstinence or sex sobriety reach, like. 816 02:08:50.450 --> 02:08:52.940 Jerry Corley: You know, to overcome your addiction. 817 02:08:53.180 --> 02:08:56.300 Jerry Corley: by going to meetings at the Bunny Ranch. 818 02:08:56.300 --> 02:09:01.909 LINA: Okay, so you wouldn't… so… because I… that's how I want to deliver it, at the… at the Bunny Ranch. 819 02:09:02.270 --> 02:09:06.620 LINA: Do you think people… I know people, like, Yep. 820 02:09:06.940 --> 02:09:07.720 LINA: Gen X, right? 821 02:09:07.720 --> 02:09:11.130 Jerry Corley: I don't know, did everybody get what the bunny Ranch was? 822 02:09:11.390 --> 02:09:13.919 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Yeah, but I wouldn't call it sobriety. 823 02:09:14.480 --> 02:09:15.060 LINA: Right? 824 02:09:15.060 --> 02:09:20.699 Jerry Corley: Overcome your addiction by going to meetings at the Bonnie Ranch. 825 02:09:20.700 --> 02:09:21.330 LINA: Yeah. 826 02:09:21.330 --> 02:09:27.489 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: It's an addiction, like gambling, you know. I mean, we don't look at alcoholism 827 02:09:28.180 --> 02:09:37.210 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: the same way, but it is the same way, but that's the only one they talk about, ingesting. So, you don't ingest… 828 02:09:37.440 --> 02:09:45.480 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Gambling or, sex. Well, you could ingest sex, but, mostly it's anything you ingest. 829 02:09:45.620 --> 02:09:49.290 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Larry, what is your name again? Jerry's looking it up. 830 02:09:49.720 --> 02:10:02.890 Jerry Corley: No, you're right. It's like, it's specifically dealing with sobriety from drugs or alcohol, especially intoxication, not necessarily… although, if you've had really great sex, it's intoxicating. Right. 831 02:10:02.890 --> 02:10:03.510 LINA: scary! 832 02:10:03.510 --> 02:10:04.870 Jerry Corley: As I've been told. 833 02:10:05.450 --> 02:10:07.160 LINA: Jerry, Jared? 834 02:10:07.160 --> 02:10:07.959 Jerry Corley: Yes, yes. 835 02:10:08.290 --> 02:10:25.090 LINA: Sorry, I can't yell. So I'm just gonna write… I'm just gonna say, A, meetings at the Rainbow. I'm gonna say, I used to go to… it's like… I used to go to A Meetings at the Rainbow in the Comedy Store. That's like a sex add in going to meetings at the ranch. I think that's perfect. Meetings at the ranch, because it's like a… you assume… 836 02:10:25.090 --> 02:10:26.360 Jerry Corley: Bunny, Bunny Ranch. 837 02:10:26.700 --> 02:10:28.300 LINA: At the Bunny Ranch, that's what I'm gonna say. 838 02:10:29.440 --> 02:10:45.080 Jerry Corley: Yeah, yeah, yeah, good, good. Yeah, and there's gonna be more there in a tag or a topper after that, or maybe a he said, she said, act out, you know. You know, maybe they set that egg… maybe they set that egg timer instead of 7 minutes, it's more like 3. 839 02:10:45.250 --> 02:10:45.990 Jerry Corley: You know. 840 02:10:45.990 --> 02:10:55.220 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: And then you can change it when you change location, like, what's the, best little whorehouse in Texas? You know, like, every region has their own… 841 02:10:55.870 --> 02:10:56.480 LINA: Yeah. 842 02:10:56.700 --> 02:10:57.440 LINA: I, I. 843 02:10:57.440 --> 02:10:59.290 Cliff Spenger: The Mustang fans? 844 02:10:59.550 --> 02:11:00.590 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Nevada? Yeah. 845 02:11:00.590 --> 02:11:07.390 Jerry Corley: A Diddy party. That's good. That's like a, you know, if you're a sex addict going to meetings at Diddy… at a Diddy party. 846 02:11:08.250 --> 02:11:09.570 Cliff Spenger: Everyone would know that. 847 02:11:09.570 --> 02:11:30.390 Jerry Corley: That's a funny way of saying that, too. I also like the Bunny Ranch, that's good. That was good. That was really good. That's a good way of tying that in. I liked when you said, I'm not saying I was, had an alcohol problem, but I was, open it that way, don't give it away, open it that way. I'm not saying I have a bit of an alcohol problem, but I was ordered to go to the AA by a judge. 848 02:11:31.650 --> 02:11:33.210 Jerry Corley: It was court-ordered? 849 02:11:33.690 --> 02:11:35.689 LINA: Barry, with drinking or alcohol? 850 02:11:38.610 --> 02:11:40.650 Jerry Corley: I'm confused, isn't that the same thing? 851 02:11:41.030 --> 02:11:43.320 LINA: I don't know how to deliver it, though. I'm not… 852 02:11:43.320 --> 02:11:48.269 Jerry Corley: I'm not saying I had problems with drinking, either way, or problems with alcohol. I think both work. 853 02:11:49.410 --> 02:12:08.089 Jerry Corley: Yeah, both work on that one. It's not one of those ones that you would fight over which word to use, necessarily, but I think they both have that grit in there of that, you know, being… having an issue that, to the point where you were ordered by a judge to go to… and I like it, not for anything big, only for kicking a cop. 854 02:12:09.620 --> 02:12:13.080 Jerry Corley: In TSA, at Burbank Airport. 855 02:12:14.470 --> 02:12:33.409 Jerry Corley: That's hysterical! You know? And it's like, and I didn't want to… I never wanted to talk about this, because I was afraid my mother… no, I didn't want to talk about this, because I was afraid to tarnish my reputation, or, you know, make myself look bad. So, I told my mother. 856 02:12:33.580 --> 02:12:38.659 Jerry Corley: And she wound up telling everybody, and tarnished my reputation, and made me look bad. 857 02:12:39.470 --> 02:12:45.020 Jerry Corley: So, people wonder why I didn't send her flowers on Mother's Day. 858 02:12:47.120 --> 02:12:48.609 LINA: What about not even a call at the end of that? 859 02:12:48.610 --> 02:12:55.040 Jerry Corley: Not even a call. That's it, that's right. Well, why? In case I tell her something else that she tells everybody. 860 02:12:56.260 --> 02:12:56.740 Jerry Corley: That's… 861 02:12:56.740 --> 02:13:21.730 Jerry Corley: That's a… that's really… I like it, and it dabbles, lets the audience solve the problem. You don't have to go into too much details, we're getting it, and it makes us crave to hear a little more, and a little more, and you sort of… you can peel back the onion, rather than telling them everything at once. So I think that's a good way to do the peeling back the onion. Good. I like where you're going with this. This is really kind of personal, and it's gritty, and it's… people can relate to it, they feel 862 02:13:21.730 --> 02:13:28.020 Jerry Corley: friction, so I like it. And it's like, it's your friction, so they don't have to… they can feel superior. 863 02:13:28.250 --> 02:13:35.670 Jerry Corley: So, you know, they don't have to draw an alliance to, like, a political party or anything like that, which makes people feel weird these days. 864 02:13:36.080 --> 02:13:49.920 Jerry Corley: They don't have to go with that challenge, because it's your story, and they can go, oh man, that must be rough, or oh, wow, I'm glad that didn't happen to me, or oh, shit, I remember when that did happen to me, or something like that. Oh, yeah, your mother did the same thing? You can have that, too. 865 02:13:50.060 --> 02:13:54.420 Jerry Corley: So really good, really good, Rana, what do you got? 866 02:13:55.510 --> 02:14:00.840 Ronna J Levy: Okay, I tried it. I, customer service… 867 02:14:01.340 --> 02:14:07.070 Ronna J Levy: If customer service chatbots were bartenders, everybody would be sober. 868 02:14:10.770 --> 02:14:23.179 Jerry Corley: That's a good way of saying it, yeah, that's a really good way. All I'm saying is, like, I'm dealing with these customer service chatbots, man, let us know a little emotion in there. Let us connect to that emotion. 869 02:14:23.180 --> 02:14:32.630 Jerry Corley: It's like, there's almost nothing more frustrating. Like, all I'm saying, if, like, customer service chatbots were bartenders, then everybody would be sober. 870 02:14:33.740 --> 02:14:39.929 Jerry Corley: But enough about, but enough about asking for a drink at Flapper's. 871 02:14:42.320 --> 02:14:55.570 Jerry Corley: We just… I just had a… we just had a bad experience with the server at Flappers, and, and I think I'd mentioned something about it, in another class, but it was, like, she was, like, the rudest 872 02:14:55.570 --> 02:15:14.279 Jerry Corley: You know, and I'm like, I'm producing this show, I'm not… you're not somebody you want to be rude to, is the person who's put all the butts in the seats there, right? Or helped get all the butts in the seats there, right? It's like, why do you… why would you do that? And it was like, it was just… there were so many things, like, she was just so bad. And, 873 02:15:14.280 --> 02:15:26.010 Jerry Corley: Normally, you know, I won't complain, but it was just, somebody's having a bad day. But no, that's… it's hurting things on so many levels, right? And, you know, you want people to come back. 874 02:15:26.010 --> 02:15:32.599 Jerry Corley: So it's like, in that case, that kind of thing is like, I got it, I, you know, it's like… 875 02:15:32.930 --> 02:15:43.400 Jerry Corley: Man, if customers… if bartenders were more like customer service, like, nobody, everybody would be sober. That's a funny way of saying that, really good. Nice, Rana! Look at that. 876 02:15:43.760 --> 02:15:51.230 Ronna J Levy: Another long one, well, kind of. If you had to draw a picture of a customer service chatbot. 877 02:15:51.920 --> 02:16:08.889 Ronna J Levy: It would be a picture of me holding the phone, and there would be a chain of thought bubbles emanating from my temple up to a, what's it called? A thought… train of thought, a thought bubble filled with symbol swearing. 878 02:16:09.270 --> 02:16:10.580 Ronna J Levy: Something like that. 879 02:16:12.060 --> 02:16:16.489 Ronna J Levy: If you had to draw a picture of customers, it would be me holding a phone. 880 02:16:16.700 --> 02:16:19.689 Ronna J Levy: With thought bubbles emanating to a thought cloud. 881 02:16:19.690 --> 02:16:23.850 Jerry Corley: Oh, I like it, yeah, and it's all symbol-swearing. 882 02:16:23.850 --> 02:16:24.590 Ronna J Levy: Yeah. 883 02:16:24.590 --> 02:16:33.439 Jerry Corley: And that's a good sort of a think joke there. I love the opening where, like, if you had to draw a picture, because we now hit nostalgia. 884 02:16:33.469 --> 02:16:52.719 Jerry Corley: Right? Because we've all been asked to draw a picture. What would this be like in a picture? And, like, that was the thing that really I could see the visual of, if I was to draw a picture that represented that, what would it be? And yours was so interesting, it would be me on the phone with a thought bubble filled with symbol swearing. 885 02:16:53.799 --> 02:17:00.199 Jerry Corley: So it's like, I'm saying things, you have to put… you have to insert blanks here. That's like, oh my god, these people again? 886 02:17:00.580 --> 02:17:05.679 Jerry Corley: Customer service. It's like, imagine being customer service for the Trump phone. 887 02:17:06.469 --> 02:17:16.699 Jerry Corley: Still, people have paid, over a half a million people paid 100 bucks, put a deposit on that phone, and that phone still hasn't been shipped out. It's been a year. It's been a year. 888 02:17:17.009 --> 02:17:21.219 Jerry Corley: So, imagine what they're feeling. Boy, I feel sorry for those customer service people. 889 02:17:21.599 --> 02:17:23.879 Jerry Corley: Right? It's all symbols. 890 02:17:24.700 --> 02:17:25.209 Ronna J Levy: Right. 891 02:17:25.590 --> 02:17:38.019 Jerry Corley: Alright, good, good. Thoughts… and it was like, symbol swearing! What a nice term, too. Haven't heard that in a long time. Symbol… haven't heard that at all, but I saw it. Thought bubble with symbol swearing. And take your time with that. 892 02:17:38.020 --> 02:17:38.840 Ronna J Levy: You know? 893 02:17:38.840 --> 02:17:43.110 Jerry Corley: Hashtag at exclamation, asterisk. 894 02:17:43.860 --> 02:17:46.859 Jerry Corley: Right? Right. Alright, nice. All right, Greta! 895 02:17:50.170 --> 02:17:54.260 Greta: Just a couple quick things that already came up, 896 02:17:54.770 --> 02:17:57.889 Greta: I think P. Diddy, you mentioned P. Diddy? 897 02:17:57.990 --> 02:18:06.170 Greta: he, he actually doesn't go by P. Diddy anymore, he changed his name. He goes by P. He did. 898 02:18:07.030 --> 02:18:12.570 Jerry Corley: P, he did it. Yeah, P, P, he did it. P, that's good. P, he did it. 899 02:18:13.150 --> 02:18:13.500 Greta: And… 900 02:18:13.500 --> 02:18:16.840 Jerry Corley: I think he's now actually shortening it to, he peed. 901 02:18:16.840 --> 02:18:19.799 Greta: There you go. 902 02:18:20.360 --> 02:18:24.610 Greta: And then, just a little hack for you if you want to go up behind, 903 02:18:24.980 --> 02:18:30.579 Greta: your, your, your lady, your wife, your whatever, while she's doing dishes. 904 02:18:31.680 --> 02:18:36.450 Greta: Offer to do the dishes, and you will get… what you want. 905 02:18:36.709 --> 02:18:44.259 Jerry Corley: That's a great solution, but to see, it's like, now, my other solution was, I just make sure that… not to do that to my wife. 906 02:18:45.020 --> 02:18:47.499 Greta: And . 907 02:18:47.500 --> 02:18:50.120 Jerry Corley: make sure the person I was doing it to was no longer my wife. 908 02:18:50.129 --> 02:18:56.539 Greta: life. Okay, so, sometimes I, 909 02:18:56.619 --> 02:19:15.270 Greta: I do struggle with, suicidal ideation, so… but I never called the suicide hotline, the 988 number. I just called the cable company, because, by the time I get, you know, transferred and on hold, and by the time I get somebody that can't help me, 910 02:19:15.299 --> 02:19:26.740 Greta: who tells me, or asks me, I should say, ma'am, do you have an anger problem? I'm so fucking goddamn mad that I forget… that I want to kill someone, and I forget that that was me. 911 02:19:27.340 --> 02:19:28.989 Jerry Corley: Oh, that's hysterical! 912 02:19:30.530 --> 02:19:39.370 Jerry Corley: That's so funny. I get so mad I want to kill somebody, and I forget it was me. That's just brilliant. That's… that's, like, genius-level… 913 02:19:40.040 --> 02:19:46.769 Jerry Corley: Wow, that's funny as hell. Yeah, that's really good. I mean, that's what… that's a way of saying it. 914 02:19:46.770 --> 02:20:07.689 Jerry Corley: That is like, wow, that's a… yeah, totally… and because the friction is so high, I think. It's such a serious subject. When you say suicidal ideation, first of all, we go, oh, we're going right into darkness here, here we are, and it's like, then you… you know, what I do is I call customer service at the cable company. 915 02:20:08.040 --> 02:20:25.579 Jerry Corley: And then they kind of get a laugh, right? Instead of calling the suicide hotline, I call the… I call the ca… because I don't want to take up too much… there's other people that need help, right? So, it's like, I don't want to take up too… so I called… I don't want to take up the time for other people that might need help, so instead, I called a cable company. 916 02:20:25.660 --> 02:20:34.529 Jerry Corley: And people go, huh? Why? Because by the time I'm done with them, I'm so mad, I want to kill somebody, and I forget it's not me. 917 02:20:34.680 --> 02:20:41.189 Jerry Corley: That's genius. Wow, that's funny. Nice. That's a… what a solution. And… 918 02:20:41.430 --> 02:20:44.379 Jerry Corley: People can see it as a solution. 919 02:20:45.030 --> 02:20:46.139 Greta: I'm still here! 920 02:20:46.140 --> 02:21:02.399 Jerry Corley: Because, yeah, and it works! I'm still here, right? That's funny. So the great tag right there. On top of that, so if people can see it, it's almost an affirmation, in a way, because theoretically, so the theory with affirmations is when you fill your brain with good thoughts. 921 02:21:03.030 --> 02:21:07.699 Jerry Corley: The brain can only do one thing at a time. It can't be… it can't, like, it's not… 922 02:21:07.760 --> 02:21:20.770 Jerry Corley: simultaneous, it's sequential. You've heard me say this millions of times, and that's our advantage as comedians. It's like, people can't think of this and an alternate solution at the same time. They can only think of one thing. So, 923 02:21:20.770 --> 02:21:32.320 Jerry Corley: when you're filling your brain with affirmations, there's no space there during the time you're filling with affirmations with the negative thoughts. So if you're filling with affirmations. 924 02:21:32.320 --> 02:21:48.769 Jerry Corley: You know, you can't have the negative thoughts, and that takes up more of the time. Eventually, the brain also loves patterns and habits, and it starts to take on the habits of the positive. You just kind of nutshelled it by saying, I get on the phone with the cable company. 925 02:21:49.210 --> 02:22:04.309 Jerry Corley: And by the time I'm done yelling at them, I want to kill somebody, and I forget it's not me. That's a different way of saying that, too. Wow. That's so good. And people see that as a real solution. That's a good idea. It'd make me forget that I was gonna kill myself. 926 02:22:04.330 --> 02:22:11.710 Jerry Corley: That's… that's good. That's why it's so good. Because it's a truth. It's not only just a joke, it's, like, almost like a Mitch Hedberg truth. 927 02:22:11.950 --> 02:22:18.020 Jerry Corley: So it's a really good line. I mean, that's… that could be a meme, that could be a t-shirt. 928 02:22:18.460 --> 02:22:30.560 Jerry Corley: If you've had suicidal thoughts, instead of, you know, calling suicide Hotline, call the cable company. By the time you're done with them, you'll want to kill somebody, and you'll forget it's not you. 929 02:22:30.940 --> 02:22:40.000 Jerry Corley: You forget it's you. That's it. Yeah, yeah, good. Wow, nice. What a solution. All right, nicely done. So, Sarah, what do you got? 930 02:22:42.060 --> 02:22:45.060 Sara: Not much, but… anyway. 931 02:22:46.870 --> 02:22:51.230 Sara: So, I'm so scared of flying, that's horrible. 932 02:22:51.570 --> 02:22:56.899 Sara: Hopefully, the airport security always makes me miss my plane. 933 02:23:00.180 --> 02:23:02.860 Sara: I'm trying to find the truth. 934 02:23:04.090 --> 02:23:06.900 Jerry Corley: So, I go to the airport. 935 02:23:07.150 --> 02:23:10.280 Jerry Corley: With just enough time to catch my flight. 936 02:23:10.660 --> 02:23:16.040 Jerry Corley: And that way, airport security makes sure that I miss my plane. 937 02:23:16.040 --> 02:23:17.710 Sara: make sure that I'm using my voice. 938 02:23:17.710 --> 02:23:26.280 Jerry Corley: Yeah, that's a good solution. And now, who is it you're visiting that we can now relate to that we'd want to miss visiting? 939 02:23:28.020 --> 02:23:31.120 Jerry Corley: Like, a lot of people would be parents, relatives… 940 02:23:31.120 --> 02:23:32.760 Sara: For work, username. 941 02:23:32.760 --> 02:23:33.330 Jerry Corley: you know. 942 02:23:33.330 --> 02:23:35.889 Sara: I know. I always take plain for work. 943 02:23:35.990 --> 02:23:37.100 Sara: Yeah, it's like. 944 02:23:37.100 --> 02:23:52.149 Jerry Corley: I take a plane to go to work, and so I hate my job, so… but I don't want to get fired, so I always leave to go to the airport with just enough time to catch my flight, knowing that TSA will delay me to the point 945 02:23:52.420 --> 02:23:59.329 Jerry Corley: Where they make me miss my flight, and now it's not my fault. So this is one way of keeping your job. It was TSA's fault. 946 02:23:59.910 --> 02:24:05.140 Jerry Corley: So that's a fun solution. I like that. Like, that's a way to win. That's a way to win. Yeah. 947 02:24:05.140 --> 02:24:08.700 Cliff Spenger: What do you carry in your carry-on to slow it down? 948 02:24:10.080 --> 02:24:10.530 Sara: Oh. 949 02:24:10.900 --> 02:24:11.820 Jerry Corley: A knife. 950 02:24:12.680 --> 02:24:13.840 Cliff Spenger: The thing is. 951 02:24:13.840 --> 02:24:22.729 Sara: If I think about plane or airport or things, I just focus on… I mean, I'm just so scared of plane that it's all what came to my mind. 952 02:24:23.390 --> 02:24:24.140 Sara: dates. 953 02:24:24.670 --> 02:24:25.020 Jerry Corley: Every time. 954 02:24:25.020 --> 02:24:32.610 Sara: It doesn't make that much sense, because you want to get your plane, so it's not really relatable. 955 02:24:33.490 --> 02:24:38.699 Cliff Spenger: In the comedy part, you're sort of fighting against your best instincts. 956 02:24:38.700 --> 02:24:42.150 Jerry Corley: But you have to take the plane to get to work. 957 02:24:42.320 --> 02:24:42.950 Cliff Spenger: Yeah. 958 02:24:42.950 --> 02:24:55.179 Jerry Corley: And if it's a job you just dread so much, we always try to find an excuse not to go to work. Like, maybe even in the story you can build in, you know, the job it has, you know, if… 959 02:24:55.180 --> 02:25:09.159 Jerry Corley: You… if something happens where you can't make it to work and it's not your fault, they don't fire you. So what I do, and I have to fly to go to work, so what I do is I make sure I have just enough time to get to the airport to catch my flight. 960 02:25:09.270 --> 02:25:16.269 Jerry Corley: And, I know that TSA will delay me because of the knife I put in my carry-on. 961 02:25:17.130 --> 02:25:23.419 Jerry Corley: And it's… and they'll make me miss my flight. So I go, TSA, make me miss my flight. 962 02:25:23.910 --> 02:25:29.279 Jerry Corley: And it's like… and it works every time. So far, I've missed work 13 times this month. 963 02:25:30.540 --> 02:25:34.390 Jerry Corley: Now, that could be, like, it's almost obsessive. 964 02:25:34.580 --> 02:25:40.529 Jerry Corley: What reason, like, of you, like, not making your flight? It's such a habit. 965 02:25:40.840 --> 02:25:51.169 Jerry Corley: Like, now, this also gives you an idea of what other solutions could you use that could be excusable for not going to work. 966 02:25:52.980 --> 02:26:09.820 Jerry Corley: You know, and it's like, you know, with… you could even say… you can maybe even go farther, what… or what other things that you dreaded did you use that… that same technique for? It really works. Like, I've done it, used it 3 times for weddings alone. 967 02:26:10.630 --> 02:26:12.250 Jerry Corley: They were my weddings. 968 02:26:14.510 --> 02:26:23.410 Jerry Corley: Right? And it's like, it's a way to leave them at the altar. I mean, it's like, yeah, I finally changed my mind, I just let… I made… TSA made that decision for me. 969 02:26:23.770 --> 02:26:43.729 Jerry Corley: You know, so that's a fun way to take that, too. That's a… that's a good… good, good. You guys, and that's not an easy, easy task. What you did there is not so, easy. So, you've… and you made it happen through a storytelling. So, so somebody said, 970 02:26:44.750 --> 02:26:57.799 Jerry Corley: I got Jonathan Blanken here. Let me read his, what he's got. The principle of the HOA is based on our idea that the good neighbors are built on a foundation of petty bureaucrats doing everything in their power to make your life a living hell. 971 02:26:57.800 --> 02:27:08.149 Jerry Corley: The principle of HOA is that you have, that's a good way of saying it without saying it. Like, the principle of the HOA is that you elevate the rosy neighbor to the status of absolute neighbor dictator. 972 02:27:08.150 --> 02:27:14.110 Jerry Corley: Nice. Many people don't know that the H in HOA stands for Hitler. That's good. 973 02:27:14.600 --> 02:27:30.300 Jerry Corley: I like that. Takes a special person to work at the DMV to confront the level of customer anger they face on a daily basis, and meet with a Zen Master level of indifference. Like, I'm not saying that the DMV employees have given up on life, but I'm saying they never believed in life. 974 02:27:31.230 --> 02:27:38.469 Jerry Corley: That's a qualification to be hired, you know? It's the one question they give you. Do you believe in life? 975 02:27:40.660 --> 02:28:03.910 Jerry Corley: Not really. Oh. Oh, wait, okay, you get a second interview. No one wants to blow up on a plane. No one wants to look in the seat next to the… next to you and see some crazed lunatics with Cash Patel eyes lighting their shoes on fire. But there has got to be a better way to handle this issue than off the, off, you know, off, off, off, off, off-Broadway security, theater that, the TSA is providing. 976 02:28:04.100 --> 02:28:18.739 Jerry Corley: You know, it's like, I like that, that off, off, off, off, plus the funniness on the way there, like, Cash Patel crazy eyes, okay, like, this lunatic with Cash Patel eyes. That could be, like, wasn't there, like, Betty Davis eyes? 977 02:28:18.930 --> 02:28:23.250 Jerry Corley: Maybe do a little song parody on Cash Patel eyes, you know? 978 02:28:23.390 --> 02:28:42.679 Jerry Corley: You know, one eye looking at me, I got my eye on you, my other eye on death, or whatever it is, you know. I got one eye on you, the other eye on how to kill you, you know, something like that. There's gotta be something there. One eye on you, the other eye on… 979 02:28:43.620 --> 02:28:44.730 Jerry Corley: Whiskey. 980 02:28:47.360 --> 02:28:55.940 Jerry Corley: So, so that could be somewhere… there's something in there. Again, you know, this is, like, a song parody off the top of my head. It wasn't even a parody. I didn't even know what the song was I was singing. 981 02:28:55.940 --> 02:29:10.400 Jerry Corley: Alright, so there might be something like Betty Davis eyes instead of Cash Patel eyes. I love that idea. Chatbots were clearly designed by the former Nazis who escaped South America with the aid of the Catholic Church, by the way, just so you know. 982 02:29:10.440 --> 02:29:17.239 Jerry Corley: So, it's like, our father heart, and go to, go to Argentina. 983 02:29:17.350 --> 02:29:20.260 Jerry Corley: Father, the Son, the Holy. 984 02:29:20.840 --> 02:29:34.119 Jerry Corley: Ferry to Argentina. So America with their aid at the Catholic Church and decided to make amends for their evil past deeds by trying to get as many people as possible to commit suicide. 985 02:29:34.650 --> 02:29:55.609 Jerry Corley: I think instead of having customer service chatbots, companies should hire some unemployed people to hang up on us. Then, we can at least have the human touch of knowing our existential pain is helping someone else put dinner on the table. Yes, that's a really fun way of doing it, so it's a great way of swapping bad for good. 986 02:29:55.640 --> 02:30:05.100 Jerry Corley: But even though it's bad, it's turning into something good, because at least somebody's making money to put dinner on the table. That's good. Can we all agree that cable companies suck? 987 02:30:05.100 --> 02:30:27.500 Jerry Corley: everything about him comes from Dante's 9th Circuit of Hell, like, 9th… sorry, 9th Circuit. You can see where my mind is, in court appeals, in the Ninth Circle of Hell. But I think the worst part is that there's one channel I want to watch, and I'm paying, and one channel I want to watch, but I'm paying 586 other channels 988 02:30:27.500 --> 02:30:46.129 Jerry Corley: Why am I forced to subsidize these… this entertainment-free digital dead zones of dismay? What is the hellish form of media social… this is, you know, this is some form of… some hellish form of media socialism, isn't it? That's… I like where you're going with that by itself. It's such an interesting premise. 989 02:30:46.640 --> 02:30:52.279 Jerry Corley: You know, about cable companies suck. They make you get all these other channels. 990 02:30:52.470 --> 02:30:55.100 Jerry Corley: How many people have time for this anymore? 991 02:30:55.530 --> 02:30:59.259 Jerry Corley: About watching all these other channels. Kaz says she does. 992 02:30:59.950 --> 02:31:02.210 Jerry Corley: Are you… do you have cable, Cass? 993 02:31:04.080 --> 02:31:06.540 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: No, I have streaming companies. 994 02:31:06.830 --> 02:31:07.649 Jerry Corley: Here you go. 995 02:31:08.170 --> 02:31:15.550 Jerry Corley: See? So it's like… but I like the cable company, it's like, oh, they're almost… what else is almost not legit anymore? Weathermen. 996 02:31:15.740 --> 02:31:21.170 Jerry Corley: You know, if we only had an app to tell us up to the minute, what was gonna happen today. 997 02:31:21.630 --> 02:31:22.440 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: We do! 998 02:31:22.440 --> 02:31:28.640 Jerry Corley: Right? Yeah, right? It's like, why don't we, you know, don't miss the weather tonight, 11.30, right? Well… 999 02:31:30.520 --> 02:31:44.980 Jerry Corley: I don't need to tune into you anymore. So it was like… so I think there's some… definitely some fun there, having a good time with that. Alright, let's check in with one more thing, because we have a little time here. That was… I'm… I'm impressed. 1000 02:31:45.100 --> 02:31:58.579 Jerry Corley: That was good work. It's not an easy task. It's not… it wasn't an easy assignment. It wasn't effortless, alright? It really, you know, taking on what she does and then adding that to it. So, let me bring up the document. 1001 02:31:58.580 --> 02:32:03.879 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Hey, Jerry, it's definitely a different way of thinking, but also writing. 1002 02:32:04.470 --> 02:32:05.470 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: You know? 1003 02:32:05.660 --> 02:32:06.800 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: So… 1004 02:32:07.070 --> 02:32:22.740 Jerry Corley: In actuality, yes, but you tell stories like this all the time. Yeah. It's now getting into taking that pattern that you've used, that I think we've all used from time to time in telling stories, and making it repeatable. 1005 02:32:22.980 --> 02:32:46.319 Jerry Corley: And that's where the complication comes. This happens with, people who write the stories rather than tell the stories, because writing the stories is a whole different mechanism than just telling, having that in a conversation and telling the stories. We talk in a different way than we write, and it's a big block sometimes for a lot of people. In fact, I had to practice, practice, practice, practice. 1006 02:32:46.490 --> 02:32:52.070 Jerry Corley: writing the way I talked, so when I write dialogue, it doesn't sound so… Written. 1007 02:32:52.240 --> 02:33:04.539 Jerry Corley: Heh, it sounds more spoken, you know, half, half, starting in the middle of a sentence rather than the beginning of a sentence, that sort of thing. Using, using slang. 1008 02:33:04.900 --> 02:33:07.420 Jerry Corley: So, okay, so… 1009 02:33:08.390 --> 02:33:14.899 Jerry Corley: Let's see, let's see, you can stay directly the incident, there's that one. Alright, let me jump back to… 1010 02:33:16.950 --> 02:33:18.240 Jerry Corley: Right to this one, hang on. 1011 02:33:55.000 --> 02:33:56.400 Jerry Corley: Let me… 1012 02:34:37.150 --> 02:34:40.089 Jerry Corley: Let me see if, this can make sense. 1013 02:34:40.770 --> 02:34:42.040 Jerry Corley: Pretty God. 1014 02:34:44.640 --> 02:34:48.560 Jerry Corley: Alright, so… Let me share this document with you. 1015 02:34:49.780 --> 02:34:58.750 Jerry Corley: one of the things she does, and it was, like, kind of hard for me to break down in its simplest form, so I kind of went to, 1016 02:34:59.240 --> 02:35:05.469 Jerry Corley: I'll explain it a little bit and see if we can come to a conclusion together on this. So, when… 1017 02:35:06.510 --> 02:35:13.469 Jerry Corley: she, I called it, like… In congruity through exaggerated comparison. 1018 02:35:13.770 --> 02:35:17.259 Jerry Corley: So, a lot of times, one of the lines she uses, like. 1019 02:35:17.550 --> 02:35:22.470 Jerry Corley: And when she's talking about, being in Afghanistan. 1020 02:35:22.540 --> 02:35:30.639 Jerry Corley: And I remember going to Iraq back in the day, and it was different. I've never been to Afghanistan. 1021 02:35:30.640 --> 02:35:41.159 Jerry Corley: And I can imagine, I've heard these stories of Afghanistan. I always thought it would be hot. Somebody said it's really cold. My friend Vargas, who went there, said it was really cold when he went. 1022 02:35:41.160 --> 02:35:51.930 Jerry Corley: And then she took and breaks it down to what's happening. And one of the things she said, I went to Afghanistan, if sand is flying in my face, I should be holding a colorful drink. 1023 02:35:52.400 --> 02:36:09.520 Jerry Corley: Right? She expected desert warfare, and like, and what's expected, what's expected is desert warfare, she's explaining it as almost like a beach vacation. So, like, and she goes, I felt like we flew to the Bible. 1024 02:36:10.460 --> 02:36:24.310 Jerry Corley: I thought that was a really, really funny line to use, the Old… and then she tagged it with the Old Testament, the bad Bible, right? It's like, the Old Testament is basically, you know, the, 1025 02:36:24.430 --> 02:36:26.399 Jerry Corley: What was it, the, 1026 02:36:26.670 --> 02:36:39.149 Jerry Corley: Talmud, right? So it's like the first… the first story, it's like, so it's… but you have an unexpected mental leap. German shoulders, German soldiers, when were they allowed back in? 1027 02:36:39.900 --> 02:36:46.679 Jerry Corley: So that's a fun… that was a funny tie-in. It was funny to listen to that in her special, because the audience didn't quite get it. 1028 02:36:46.740 --> 02:37:04.300 Jerry Corley: They forgot about World War II, right? So, it was an unexpected historical jump she takes. So, it's like, comedy loves category collisions, right? It's like… but you still… they still see a similarity. It's basically the same as taking something that's wildly different 1029 02:37:04.600 --> 02:37:15.419 Jerry Corley: than what we're talking about, but still showing, based on the way you say it, how similar they are, right? So in this case, so it's like, exercise. 1030 02:37:15.550 --> 02:37:16.400 Jerry Corley: if… 1031 02:37:16.570 --> 02:37:25.069 Jerry Corley: this feels like this, then it should also include this. Like, if this feels like sand is blowing in my face. 1032 02:37:27.320 --> 02:37:31.030 Jerry Corley: Shouldn't it also include… shouldn't it come with… 1033 02:37:31.770 --> 02:37:34.329 Jerry Corley: A colorful drink and an umbrella. 1034 02:37:34.470 --> 02:37:53.010 Jerry Corley: Right? So, that's saying it's… we're on the beach, having a good time, rather than we're in a desert having sand blow on our face. So, this is basically, if this is true, what else can be true? Comparing it to a dissimilar idea, while also weirdly similar, because you back out of it and you take the basic elements of using exaggeration. 1035 02:37:53.020 --> 02:38:04.110 Jerry Corley: Bonus points for sound effects, by the way, if you can add some diegetic interruption. So, take jury duty, go into Costco, dating apps. 1036 02:38:04.290 --> 02:38:17.050 Jerry Corley: political debates, just because I watched that mayoral political debate, and it was like, And the thing I came… I was just doing a rant on it, and I came up with a, kind of like an analogy, because this guy, Spencer Pratt. 1037 02:38:17.190 --> 02:38:32.389 Jerry Corley: was talking about, basically saying, you know, everybody was lying about the Palisades fire, because he lost his home in the Palisades fire, but he's running for mayor, and he basically said the, you know, the winds were only 40 to 60 miles per hour. 1038 02:38:32.450 --> 02:38:37.250 Jerry Corley: They weren't, like, 100 miles an hour. Everybody's saying 100 miles an hour, but if you just Google it. 1039 02:38:39.940 --> 02:38:46.909 Jerry Corley: then you'll see that it was basically, 40 miles an hour. It was 40 miles an hour sustained. 1040 02:38:48.010 --> 02:38:55.599 Jerry Corley: winds, with gusts in the Palisades of up to 80 miles an hour. That's not flyable, but he was basically 1041 02:38:55.600 --> 02:39:20.070 Jerry Corley: pulling only a section of this, and Googling it? You want to Google it. Really? Is that where we go to get the… the information from our weather, as we Google it? You know, with Gemini, using AI to find the answers? Right? And so… so this guy was basically giving you a half-truth, and it's like, and really, people do… you know, people around… people around social media go, man, after watching Spencer Pratt, he's a… 1042 02:39:20.130 --> 02:39:27.569 Jerry Corley: who could go with anybody else? And I was like, really? You're… you really want to go with another reality star? 1043 02:39:27.760 --> 02:39:39.140 Jerry Corley: Is that your solution to the problems we're having in LA? Another reality performer? Right? So I was just looking at other solutions, like, you know… 1044 02:39:39.390 --> 02:39:42.990 Jerry Corley: Googling answers to… 1045 02:39:43.220 --> 02:40:00.980 Jerry Corley: big social problems is like what? You know? It's like, well, just find the answers on Google. Why do we even need a politician? Why do we even… why do we even need a politician? Let's just go to… let's, like, let's look at our solutions. Let's solve all our solutions by using AI or Google. 1046 02:40:01.140 --> 02:40:07.119 Jerry Corley: So I think that's where I'm gonna… where you're going with this. It's a similar thing, but you're using… 1047 02:40:07.330 --> 02:40:25.009 Jerry Corley: what is that like? And go to a wild inaccuracy and find the combination between the two. And if you have a sound effect, that would even be better. Like, what is that? You hear something, and it's like, how does that, you know, every time I, you know. 1048 02:40:25.200 --> 02:40:28.800 Jerry Corley: If I'm in Disneyland, what, 1049 02:40:30.210 --> 02:40:32.540 Jerry Corley: what is that… what is Disneyland like? 1050 02:40:32.880 --> 02:40:37.540 Jerry Corley: It's like… like Jim Gaffigan goes, who's, like, being… standing in line. 1051 02:40:38.440 --> 02:40:40.189 Jerry Corley: on the surface of the sun. 1052 02:40:40.420 --> 02:40:46.059 Jerry Corley: So, standing in line… you're standing in line in July in Florida. 1053 02:40:47.050 --> 02:40:56.900 Jerry Corley: It's like standing in line while you're on the surface of the sun, whining about how hot it is, with another dad who's whining about how hot it is. 1054 02:40:57.270 --> 02:41:03.320 Jerry Corley: That's why they call it the happiest place on Earth. So go ahead and choose one of these ideas. 1055 02:41:04.150 --> 02:41:05.879 Jerry Corley: Or your own. 1056 02:41:06.180 --> 02:41:22.680 Jerry Corley: I like that some of you came up with your own solutions there, and then going to the wild comparison of it, rather than almost the nuanced comparison of it, just wildly exaggerating. Does anybody need any help with that description there? I know it's just sort of like… 1057 02:41:24.110 --> 02:41:31.190 Jerry Corley: It's one of the things I noticed with her, and I was trying to word it, that you could easily figure it out, that wild exaggeration. 1058 02:41:33.720 --> 02:41:35.810 Jerry Corley: You're all good with that? Yeah? Yeah? 1059 02:41:35.940 --> 02:41:37.320 Jerry Corley: I don't see any hands. 1060 02:41:39.080 --> 02:41:41.070 Jerry Corley: Alright. 10 minutes. 1061 02:41:42.260 --> 02:41:44.670 Jerry Corley: Pick one this time, rather than… 1062 02:41:45.060 --> 02:41:47.649 Jerry Corley: Doing a few, because we're limited on time. 1063 02:41:48.280 --> 02:41:49.830 Jerry Corley: I'll see you guys in 10 minutes. 1064 02:53:00.840 --> 02:53:05.399 Jerry Corley: Okay, Janet Rapala, you have your hand up. Let's see what we got. 1065 02:53:05.400 --> 02:53:06.070 Janet Rapala: Okay. 1066 02:53:06.070 --> 02:53:07.140 Jerry Corley: Yeah, yeah. 1067 02:53:07.140 --> 02:53:11.670 Janet Rapala: What is it about dating apps that's so much like interviewing a terrorist? 1068 02:53:12.190 --> 02:53:23.900 Janet Rapala: I mean, there's catfishing, you don't know what you're gonna get, the picks aren't accurate, it's usually 30 years… they're usually 30 years older and 50 pounds heavier than reality, or even a different sex. And inevitably. 1069 02:53:24.800 --> 02:53:25.350 Jerry Corley: And then… 1070 02:53:25.350 --> 02:53:31.389 Janet Rapala: Inevitably, it's some scam that is gonna groom you for weeks, and then either ask you for money or stalk you for life. 1071 02:53:31.790 --> 02:53:32.890 Janet Rapala: I'd almost… 1072 02:53:33.030 --> 02:53:50.469 Janet Rapala: It's so much more like terrorists. I'd almost rather be waterboarded. At least it's more honest. I don't think they're necessarily gonna kill me, but it comes close. And I'd say yes immediately to whatever was proposed for a first date, and I'd meet up without that long grooming period. 1073 02:53:51.630 --> 02:53:55.820 Jerry Corley: Yeah, and it's, like, I love the waterborne, at least it's close to getting oral. 1074 02:53:56.990 --> 02:54:02.210 Jerry Corley: Right? You could throw that in there, because it's like… and it's a different kind, it's not sexual, but it's still oral, right? 1075 02:54:03.190 --> 02:54:20.359 Jerry Corley: It's not sexual, but it's still oral. I mean, waterported, yeah, it's not sexual, but it's still oral. That could be a funny way to say that. Yeah, yeah, totally. I like the exaggeration there, you know, and I'm glad we're doing this exercise, because one of my weaknesses is logic. 1076 02:54:21.210 --> 02:54:39.910 Jerry Corley: And, in comedy, and it was like Dan O'Shannon kind of released that, and said, wildly exaggerate. And sometimes when I wildly exaggerate, I go, oh shit, that's where the punchline is. It's absurd, but it's still… we get it, emotionally. 1077 02:54:40.000 --> 02:54:49.550 Jerry Corley: Right? So, yeah, I love that, terror… it's like a… be better off like a terrorist, you know? At least if you're waterboarded, you're getting oral. 1078 02:54:49.650 --> 02:55:01.749 Jerry Corley: That's funny. That's, really funny. And you wouldn't have gone there unless you got wild with the exaggeration. Really good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, good. And, especially in senior dating. 1079 02:55:02.320 --> 02:55:09.099 Jerry Corley: You know, I remember my student Esther, she was in her 70s, she would never admit it. You're like, Esther, come on. 1080 02:55:09.220 --> 02:55:19.869 Jerry Corley: You gotta say it. But, you know, she grew up as an anarchist, right? So it's like, she had this, like, feistiness to her, and . 1081 02:55:19.870 --> 02:55:22.729 Janet Rapala: Yeah, my birthday's next week, 74. 1082 02:55:22.900 --> 02:55:30.449 Jerry Corley: Nice! Yeah, so yeah, Esther would… she said when she was dating, try to do the apps and dating, and, like. 1083 02:55:30.450 --> 02:55:43.509 Jerry Corley: I… she would say the majority of the guys were trying to scam for money, and it was just like they're just on there trying to scam you for money. And it's like, she goes, I don't know, if they didn't reply, you know, like, if they didn't, if there was, like… 1084 02:55:43.510 --> 02:55:51.360 Jerry Corley: you know, if they didn't reply to your text, you're not sure whether they're… they're ghosting you, or they died while typing, you know? 1085 02:55:51.360 --> 02:55:55.219 Janet Rapala: But with older dating, they say men are looking for a nurse or a purse. 1086 02:55:55.810 --> 02:56:02.710 Jerry Corley: Interesting. I haven't heard that. That's good to know, though, because I think I'll be dating at some point. 1087 02:56:05.650 --> 02:56:20.309 Jerry Corley: Maybe not. I'm… like, Jim Barnes, we were talking about it, he said… I said, he's kind of happy where he's at, single, and not worrying about it. He said, I just enjoy myself, and have the best time I can, go with my friends golfing, and… 1088 02:56:20.310 --> 02:56:32.139 Jerry Corley: You know, I'm not at that point where, you know, every… it's like the companion that I trusted, you know, cheated on me, so it's like, do I want to go through that again? No. 1089 02:56:32.450 --> 02:56:44.269 Jerry Corley: So it's like, he's now kind of happy where he's at, so that's it. Plus, you're talking about something that everybody… it's very primal. It's very… people we can connect to, we relate to it, it's… 1090 02:56:44.580 --> 02:56:51.360 Jerry Corley: depressing, but at the same time, visceral, right? It's love, we're trying to find love, we all want to find love. 1091 02:56:51.550 --> 02:56:55.230 Jerry Corley: It's like, and when now, maybe, love becomes an acronym. 1092 02:56:56.110 --> 02:57:00.640 Jerry Corley: Or, you could even try the acronym LUV. What does that stand for? 1093 02:57:01.370 --> 02:57:03.809 Jerry Corley: That could be, because just a purse… 1094 02:57:04.330 --> 02:57:14.090 Jerry Corley: what was it, a nurse or a purse, I love that. And now you can say, you know, everybody's… but everybody's trying to find love. The way I see it, love is L-U-V, and it stands for… 1095 02:57:14.250 --> 02:57:20.139 Jerry Corley: And maybe find the acronym there, that could be good. Yeah, I like that. Nice. Rana, what do you got? 1096 02:57:21.160 --> 02:57:21.880 Ronna J Levy: Okay. 1097 02:57:22.320 --> 02:57:25.189 Ronna J Levy: I got called for jury duty. 1098 02:57:25.230 --> 02:57:43.100 Ronna J Levy: In New York, you have to show up the first day to the courthouse, and if I have to go there and sit in a big room where everybody's got their earbuds in, and they're quietly reading their Kindle, or they're doing their work on their computers, and some asshole is walking around asking me for a charger. 1099 02:57:43.560 --> 02:57:55.069 Ronna J Levy: When my name gets called, incorrectly, I might add, I should be going up front to pick up my double, half, calf, calf, vanilla oat milk latte, no sugar, no fume, not guilty. 1100 02:57:55.500 --> 02:58:14.760 Jerry Corley: So instead, yeah, so let us know. It's like, I shouldn't be here, I, you know, when my name gets called, what I should be doing is going up to get my read through the list. So just that little thing, you're saying, I'm in the court, but I should be. 1101 02:58:15.060 --> 02:58:18.930 Jerry Corley: So that's where the little glitch is, we're missing that connection, that little… 1102 02:58:19.050 --> 02:58:27.849 Jerry Corley: you're doing a compare and contrast, so instead of here, I should be here. I should be here, I should be here, you know? Or, when they're calling my name. 1103 02:58:27.960 --> 02:58:29.559 Jerry Corley: I'm imagining… 1104 02:58:30.020 --> 02:58:30.660 Ronna J Levy: Mmm. 1105 02:58:30.660 --> 02:58:33.420 Jerry Corley: Here's how I get through jury duty. 1106 02:58:33.620 --> 02:58:39.520 Jerry Corley: They're calling my name, I imagine they're calling me up to get my… You know… 1107 02:58:39.520 --> 02:58:40.230 Ronna J Levy: Right. 1108 02:58:40.230 --> 02:58:48.299 Jerry Corley: caramel macchi macchiato with whip and drizzle, you know. So it's like… because I like it sweet. 1109 02:58:49.300 --> 02:58:53.149 Jerry Corley: You know, so that, you know, like my judges. 1110 02:58:55.610 --> 02:58:58.450 Jerry Corley: So that could be a fun… because nobody likes jury duty. 1111 02:58:58.870 --> 02:59:03.599 Jerry Corley: I think I'm on… I think I have a warrant out for my arrest for missing jury duty. I don't know. 1112 02:59:03.830 --> 02:59:09.960 Jerry Corley: They'll send me something, and I'll show up one day. Because I went there once, it was such a waste of time. 1113 02:59:10.480 --> 02:59:15.039 Jerry Corley: So, but, it's your civic duty, right? You're told it's your civic duty. 1114 02:59:15.310 --> 02:59:19.319 Jerry Corley: Cliff, what do you got? Nice, Rana, nice job, nice, nice job. 1115 02:59:19.660 --> 02:59:20.350 Ronna J Levy: Thank you. 1116 02:59:22.050 --> 02:59:29.390 Cliff Spenger: So, if, if this feels like Disneyland, Then, this should also include 1117 02:59:29.700 --> 02:59:33.550 Cliff Spenger: Then it should also include the warm aroma of vomit. 1118 02:59:33.990 --> 02:59:43.750 Jerry Corley: Yes, give us a stat behind that. What percentage of people throw up after riding a ride that 1119 02:59:43.850 --> 02:59:48.529 Jerry Corley: You know, taps into their vertigo system, their balance system that makes them throw up. 1120 02:59:48.530 --> 02:59:50.479 Cliff Spenger: 25 to a third, 33rd. 1121 02:59:50.480 --> 03:00:10.379 Jerry Corley: There you go, so what you give us, that's quite a big stat, right? They say that at least 25% of the people who go to the Disneyland, you know, somewhere around that, wind up throwing up from a ride, you know? So, instead of, like, they, instead of, say, Disney is not just the happiest place on Earth, it also includes the warm aroma of… 1122 03:00:10.380 --> 03:00:11.440 Jerry Corley: Fresh vomit. 1123 03:00:11.460 --> 03:00:12.099 Jerry Corley: You know? 1124 03:00:12.100 --> 03:00:13.110 Cliff Spenger: Fresh farming. 1125 03:00:13.110 --> 03:00:14.640 Jerry Corley: Fresh vomit, that's… 1126 03:00:14.640 --> 03:00:16.450 Cliff Spenger: I was looking for adjectives for the… 1127 03:00:16.450 --> 03:00:22.239 Jerry Corley: Now, what could be the name of the… what could be the name of those rides now? Now you could, like, take that to another tag, or top, or… 1128 03:00:22.240 --> 03:00:27.970 Cliff Spenger: changed the ride to a vomit-producing machine, like the Matterhorn. 1129 03:00:27.970 --> 03:00:30.239 Janet Rapala: steaming vomitorium. Yeah. 1130 03:00:30.240 --> 03:00:36.569 Jerry Corley: It's like, you know how you have rides that make you go upside down and loop to loop? This one makes your stomach turn inside out. 1131 03:00:37.030 --> 03:00:39.419 Cliff Spenger: Space Mountain is really Puke Mountain. 1132 03:00:39.420 --> 03:00:44.810 Jerry Corley: Yeah, it stays… Space Mountain is really, it's like lots of chunks. 1133 03:00:45.970 --> 03:00:46.540 Cliff Spenger: Yeah. 1134 03:00:47.200 --> 03:00:51.330 Jerry Corley: So good, alright, nice, alright, good. What else? Greta, what do you got? 1135 03:00:53.580 --> 03:00:55.200 Greta: Not… not much. 1136 03:00:57.040 --> 03:01:05.390 Greta: Urgent care is like being stuck on a cruise ship. It's a petri dish, minus the buffets and the belly dancing on the Louvre deck. 1137 03:01:05.810 --> 03:01:06.780 Jerry Corley: Yes, so… 1138 03:01:06.990 --> 03:01:19.410 Jerry Corley: let us… when you attach that emotion to it, as soon as you said urgent care, it's like a petri dish. And it made me go, oh, yeah, it's like I go there and I feel like I forgot my mask. 1139 03:01:20.730 --> 03:01:30.969 Jerry Corley: You know what I'm saying? It's if I go into urgent care, I'm like, I forgot my mask, I gotta get a… I've gotta leave until I have a mask. Now we have the Hanta virus that's going on, I'm like… 1140 03:01:30.970 --> 03:01:42.249 Jerry Corley: Man, I just want a good… I just think we should all walk around in a hazmat suit. I think maybe we should all just go to Afghanistan, because at least half the population is wearing that hazmat suit anyway, right? 1141 03:01:43.720 --> 03:01:51.899 Jerry Corley: So that could be a way of saying it. That's saying it without saying it, I like that. It's like, you know, but it looked like… maybe they figured it out. 1142 03:01:52.170 --> 03:01:54.589 Jerry Corley: Right? How to contain… 1143 03:01:54.830 --> 03:02:03.489 Jerry Corley: the next pandemic, right? I don't know, what was the spread like in Afghanistan? Was it big? Because, I mean, half the population already had their cover on. 1144 03:02:03.830 --> 03:02:19.160 Jerry Corley: They weren't just wearing a mask, they were wearing… they were wearing hazmat suits. That could be a way of saying it. So you're looking at the benefit of something we see as negative in Afghanistan, you know, those, the whole face cover. What do they call the, I forget what they call that. 1145 03:02:19.800 --> 03:02:21.180 Jerry Corley: Does anybody remember? 1146 03:02:21.590 --> 03:02:22.399 LINA: Good job. 1147 03:02:22.400 --> 03:02:23.410 Janet Rapala: The job? 1148 03:02:23.410 --> 03:02:25.749 Jerry Corley: Not just the hijab, the full face… 1149 03:02:26.710 --> 03:02:30.370 Jerry Corley: So, like, the whole thing's covered in Afghanistan. 1150 03:02:31.200 --> 03:02:32.819 Ronna J Levy: It's a broker, but… 1151 03:02:32.820 --> 03:02:42.879 Jerry Corley: The burqa, yeah, it's the full-face burqa, that's what they called it, the first full-face burqa, where it's almost like… it's like… it's almost like being a member of the KKK, but not… 1152 03:02:44.140 --> 03:02:56.650 Jerry Corley: You know? Because it's a hood. But you're wearing the whole thing over your face, you can't even show your face. And it's, like, such a weird thing, but when it comes time for pandemic stuff, maybe they found the answer. 1153 03:02:57.540 --> 03:03:02.330 Jerry Corley: So that's a… that's a… that's kind of an interesting way to look at it. I like that. Good. 1154 03:03:03.000 --> 03:03:09.330 Jerry Corley: So it's… you gave us a whole different picture, but it ties into the… all related to going into the urgent care. 1155 03:03:10.160 --> 03:03:12.070 Jerry Corley: Which is supposed to be a good thing. 1156 03:03:12.480 --> 03:03:27.079 Jerry Corley: It's like when Ronnie Chan talks about his parents being Asian, wanting to be a doctor, or a lawyer, a doctor, a lawyer, and it's like, they want to be a doctor, and it's like, yeah, the irony is, like, the last thing on the list of why was to help people. 1157 03:03:28.340 --> 03:03:32.400 Jerry Corley: It was all about, that's where the money is, the prestige and the money. 1158 03:03:32.920 --> 03:03:38.239 Jerry Corley: So it's like, that's kind of funny. Cass, what do you got? 1159 03:03:40.690 --> 03:03:46.660 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: I got a headache, Gary, I have to just tell you. Okay, so, if this… I usually don't do fast. 1160 03:03:46.660 --> 03:03:48.969 Jerry Corley: That's what my wife used to always say to me. 1161 03:03:48.970 --> 03:04:06.519 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Yeah, that's what she told me. I, usually don't do fact jokes, but I thought this was appropriate since I just went to Disneyland on Friday. If this feels like Disneyland, then I need to take out a small loan and surround myself with hundreds of morbidly obese people. 1162 03:04:08.360 --> 03:04:09.529 Jerry Corley: Say that again? 1163 03:04:10.460 --> 03:04:19.390 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: If this feels like Disneyland, then I need to take out a small loan and surround myself with hundreds of morbidly obese people. 1164 03:04:19.780 --> 03:04:22.909 Jerry Corley: What do you… what… if what? What are you trying to say about it? 1165 03:04:23.050 --> 03:04:23.700 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Oh! 1166 03:04:25.610 --> 03:04:27.130 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Wherever I am. 1167 03:04:27.410 --> 03:04:28.200 Jerry Corley: Coke! 1168 03:04:28.200 --> 03:04:30.020 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Do I have to say where I am to… 1169 03:04:30.020 --> 03:04:33.940 Jerry Corley: Yeah, because you're showing an association, we gotta see why… what the coincidental. 1170 03:04:33.940 --> 03:04:37.369 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Oh, okay, I… I misunderstood. 1171 03:04:37.370 --> 03:04:49.970 Jerry Corley: Going into Weight Watchers is like, you know, something like that, right? You could say that. Or going into, where else are there morbidly obese people? Going into Golden Corral. 1172 03:04:49.970 --> 03:04:51.440 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: What? 1173 03:04:51.570 --> 03:04:53.190 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Universal Studios. 1174 03:04:53.190 --> 03:04:58.160 Jerry Corley: Universal Studios, that's a good one, yeah, definitely. Americans on Vacation. 1175 03:04:58.750 --> 03:04:59.310 Jerry Corley: Right? 1176 03:04:59.310 --> 03:05:01.530 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Yeah, so if I say, 1177 03:05:02.250 --> 03:05:10.940 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: If Universal Studios feels like Disneyland, then I need to take out a small loan and surround myself with hundreds of morbidly obese people. 1178 03:05:10.940 --> 03:05:13.960 Jerry Corley: There you go. Yes, yeah, see the difference? 1179 03:05:14.110 --> 03:05:14.710 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Yeah. 1180 03:05:14.710 --> 03:05:15.100 Jerry Corley: Yeah. 1181 03:05:15.100 --> 03:05:19.320 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Maybe it could be something where there aren't large people. 1182 03:05:19.770 --> 03:05:20.829 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: You know what I mean? 1183 03:05:20.830 --> 03:05:21.440 Jerry Corley: Yeah. 1184 03:05:21.440 --> 03:05:25.100 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Should it… that be the, comparison? 1185 03:05:25.440 --> 03:05:38.579 Jerry Corley: it doesn't matter, it's up to you, right? It's kind of like writing poetry. You're wildly exaggerating to get a reaction from the audience, and you're trying to figure out which one's gonna work for this particular description. So it's like, there's no right or wrong. 1186 03:05:38.580 --> 03:05:50.729 Jerry Corley: It's, like, the only thing that was missing, there was a little short circuit, because there was no comparison to something, and that's what I was looking for, is the comparison to something. The difference between Universal Studios and Disneyland… 1187 03:05:51.580 --> 03:05:58.679 Jerry Corley: Or aren't they the same that way? They're kind of the same that way, right? So it's like, you see a lot of morbidly obese people. 1188 03:05:58.680 --> 03:06:19.410 Jerry Corley: Anyone, like, anybody with these holiday places, these places we go for adventure parks or whatever, whether it's Disneyland or Universal Studio, you know, with any of them, you need, like, a kind of a second mortgage to get in, and, you know, if you're craving taking out a second mortgage and spending your day being surrounded by morbidly obese people. 1189 03:06:20.010 --> 03:06:27.110 Jerry Corley: There you go. That's how it could work. I think it's a way of saying it without saying it, without a doubt. You know? 1190 03:06:27.110 --> 03:06:32.710 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Can you use something that's totally different, like going to the Philharmonic? 1191 03:06:33.040 --> 03:06:41.630 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: If the going to the Philharmonic feels like Disneyland, then I need to take out a small loan and surround myself by morbidly obese people. 1192 03:06:41.630 --> 03:06:43.250 Jerry Corley: Yes, because you're saying… 1193 03:06:43.510 --> 03:06:51.240 Jerry Corley: Whoever made that comparison is not being honest about it, because, like, going to the Philharmonic is definitely different. 1194 03:06:51.240 --> 03:07:05.190 Jerry Corley: than going to Disneyland. It's like going to Disneyland. No, it's not, because I don't need to take out a small… you know, in this case, I don't need to take out a small loan, and I need to take out a small… if it is, I need to take out a small loan and surround myself with morbidly obese people. 1195 03:07:06.450 --> 03:07:24.199 Jerry Corley: Yeah, that's good. That's a fun way, it's exaggerated, and we can sense your cynicism in that statement, too, and that's where the emotion connects us, is the cynicism, right? So it's like, that was good. And sometimes, how do we find it? Decide on how we feel about it first. 1196 03:07:24.590 --> 03:07:30.639 Jerry Corley: Now, how can I exaggerate that feeling so the audience can feel that, too? Well, and I… It's very primal. 1197 03:07:30.640 --> 03:07:39.769 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: one of those morbidly obese people, so now I'm just obese. But anyway… But it is really expensive. 1198 03:07:39.930 --> 03:07:43.690 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: So, my daughter… I said, I'm bringing water. 1199 03:07:43.780 --> 03:08:03.440 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: And, we drink diet soda when we eat lunch there. And she goes, can you do that? I said, yes, you can, as long as it's not open, right? So, water is $9, and a diet soda is $6.50, and that… it just adds up. Everything adds up, you know? 1200 03:08:03.570 --> 03:08:05.129 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Really expensive. 1201 03:08:05.560 --> 03:08:06.120 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Hi. 1202 03:08:06.120 --> 03:08:07.340 Jerry Corley: Disneyland we're talking about. 1203 03:08:07.340 --> 03:08:08.080 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Yeah. 1204 03:08:08.080 --> 03:08:09.550 Jerry Corley: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1205 03:08:09.550 --> 03:08:13.200 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Costs a hundred… I think $180 to get in for the day. 1206 03:08:14.120 --> 03:08:16.210 Jerry Corley: It's the happiest place on Earth. 1207 03:08:16.210 --> 03:08:19.459 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: I know. I'd rather go back to being a cocaine addict. 1208 03:08:19.460 --> 03:08:32.169 Jerry Corley: There's a laugh right there. Like, once we got that feeling, you attach that feeling to the expense of it, and then you said… and you came up with your own, I'd rather be a cocaine addict. 1209 03:08:32.870 --> 03:08:36.670 Jerry Corley: Really good. You see how it came out of that… it came out of your motion right there? 1210 03:08:36.840 --> 03:08:43.260 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Yeah. Well, I thought about… when my daughter was young, like 3-4 years old, I could… 1211 03:08:43.420 --> 03:08:54.120 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: I could buy, like, the premium deluxe Pass for the year for $395 included parking. It's now $1,750, the same exact thing. 1212 03:08:54.340 --> 03:08:56.149 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: to go to Disneyland. 1213 03:08:56.150 --> 03:08:56.910 Jerry Corley: Wow. 1214 03:08:56.910 --> 03:08:58.699 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: To get your money's worth, you have to go… 1215 03:08:58.700 --> 03:09:01.309 Jerry Corley: Now, the rides haven't changed significantly. 1216 03:09:01.310 --> 03:09:02.010 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: No. 1217 03:09:02.200 --> 03:09:05.219 Jerry Corley: Right? And the experience hasn't changed significantly. 1218 03:09:05.220 --> 03:09:10.630 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: You know, they are adding new foods, like, do these food things, you know, because… 1219 03:09:10.630 --> 03:09:11.159 Jerry Corley: It's a 7. 1220 03:09:11.160 --> 03:09:11.660 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: routine. 1221 03:09:11.660 --> 03:09:12.780 Jerry Corley: $100. 1222 03:09:12.780 --> 03:09:16.239 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Yeah. And so, if you have a family of four. 1223 03:09:16.920 --> 03:09:25.360 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: The adults go for $17.50 each, and the… Kids, if they're under 11, I think… 1224 03:09:25.560 --> 03:09:29.440 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Go for, like, 600 and something. 1225 03:09:30.520 --> 03:09:31.889 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: That's a lot of money. 1226 03:09:31.890 --> 03:09:36.249 Jerry Corley: That's… that's one of your children's… That's a first car! 1227 03:09:36.580 --> 03:09:37.270 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Yeah. 1228 03:09:37.820 --> 03:09:49.450 Jerry Corley: That's wild. Yeah, that's wild. I'm glad to find those comparisons there. I didn't know that. Once you hit me with that data point, I was shocked. So, it makes me mad now, too, you know? You know, I think… 1229 03:09:49.450 --> 03:10:06.270 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Because we do that at Southern California, you can buy 3 tickets. You get 3 tickets to go in a certain time frame from January to mid-April… mid-May, and it used to be $199, which is $67 a trip, so… 1230 03:10:06.670 --> 03:10:08.920 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: You know, that part was pretty good. 1231 03:10:08.920 --> 03:10:15.640 Jerry Corley: Something to what they… yeah, there's really something that what they've done over there at Disneyland. Alright, let's, let's jump in. Lena, what do you got? 1232 03:10:17.860 --> 03:10:22.169 LINA: Okay, this one's kind of long, too. 1233 03:10:23.230 --> 03:10:28.889 LINA: Alcatraz, they call it The Rock. Is that okay if I see this one? 1234 03:10:28.890 --> 03:10:30.550 Jerry Corley: Yeah, yes, go ahead. 1235 03:10:30.860 --> 03:10:40.210 LINA: During its nearly 30 years as a federal prison, any prisoner who tried to escape would want… will wind up either being caught or dead. 1236 03:10:40.280 --> 03:10:56.899 LINA: And yet, it was either… it was easier to escape Alcatraz than it was to leave my house when I was a teen. The irony isn't lost on me that my home was also my prison, but it was much more than just a parent-child disciplinary thing. It was, like, a toxic atmosphere that made prison seem attractive. 1237 03:10:57.200 --> 03:11:02.009 LINA: But, because after all, the people you live with in prison are supposed to be assholes. 1238 03:11:02.400 --> 03:11:12.290 LINA: It wasn't always that bad, but when it was bad, it was bad. So bad that I took whatever… I did whatever I could to get out of there. This is how bad it was. 1239 03:11:12.610 --> 03:11:17.979 LINA: When I was 16 years old, I called in a 5150 on myself. 1240 03:11:20.140 --> 03:11:23.810 LINA: They call it a Baker Act, down in… 1241 03:11:24.280 --> 03:11:30.209 LINA: Down in Florida. You see, I'm like, I'm gross fat in it, like, Florida, I don't even want to let it out, you know? Nasty. 1242 03:11:30.210 --> 03:11:31.310 Jerry Corley: It's good, yeah. 1243 03:11:31.670 --> 03:11:38.380 LINA: Can't even say it. Now I'm nauseous. Like, now I'm gonna puke. Seriously, Derek, after this class, I'm gonna go puke, because I said Florida. But… 1244 03:11:40.320 --> 03:11:44.980 LINA: I… At 14, my mom… called… 1245 03:11:45.240 --> 03:11:56.620 LINA: She got me $51.50 because I snuck out of the house to go to Universal Studios with my friends. Yes, that's right. So, 2 years later, my mom hated me even more. 1246 03:11:56.730 --> 03:12:00.430 LINA: And I just couldn't take it anymore, so I called the cops. 1247 03:12:01.120 --> 03:12:06.469 LINA: And I basically said I wanted to die. No, I never want to die. I'm too vain for that. 1248 03:12:06.980 --> 03:12:11.420 LINA: And I called I called the cops. 1249 03:12:11.720 --> 03:12:14.680 LINA: I said I wanted to die, they 51-50'd me. 1250 03:12:15.080 --> 03:12:17.230 LINA: So… 1251 03:12:17.230 --> 03:12:19.390 Jerry Corley: It was that 72-hour observation, right? 1252 03:12:19.390 --> 03:12:22.320 LINA: Yeah, yeah, so my parents were then… 1253 03:12:22.560 --> 03:12:28.250 LINA: court-ordered after to meet with the psychiatrist that I saw while I was in there. 1254 03:12:28.420 --> 03:12:32.999 LINA: At the end of the 72 hours of observation, my psychiatrist 1255 03:12:33.670 --> 03:12:40.579 LINA: gave me a diagnosis. He basically said, it's your parents. Your parents are fucking crazy. 1256 03:12:40.840 --> 03:12:42.530 LINA: And he prescribes Xanax. 1257 03:12:43.090 --> 03:12:47.340 LINA: Then when my mom picked me up, she said, you're not taking that Xanax, that Xanax is mine. 1258 03:12:48.890 --> 03:12:55.070 Jerry Corley: Yeah, good, good. That's good. Wow. It's like, wow, we feel the trap now. 1259 03:12:55.070 --> 03:13:18.470 Jerry Corley: That's good. There's more… there's more to that. I love the connections and the exaggeration. Love the tie-in to Alcatraz, because, like, people either died or, were caught. Nobody really escaped from Alcatraz. And then to say that's your home, or that's supposed to be your sanctuary in your teen years especially, that's really good. That's powerful shit right there. 1260 03:13:18.470 --> 03:13:22.440 Jerry Corley: And then you 5150'd yourself. I think that's hysterical. 1261 03:13:22.550 --> 03:13:34.619 Jerry Corley: What a way to get away from your parents. You can't get away, you can't go leave, you can't go with your friends, you can't… so instead you called the cops and said you wanted to die, so they 5150'd you. 1262 03:13:34.820 --> 03:13:41.599 Jerry Corley: the Baker Act, and then they put you in a 72-hour observation, and then the judge 1263 03:13:42.650 --> 03:13:50.410 Jerry Corley: Ordered your parents to meet with your psychiatrist, and their psychiatrist then, after the 72 hours, gave you that diagnosis. 1264 03:13:50.990 --> 03:14:06.509 Jerry Corley: And they said, you're… diagnosed me, and said, basically, gave me a diagnosis. He said, your parents are fucking crazy. So make that tighter. Don't have any fluff in there. My doctor gave me a diagnosis. He said. 1265 03:14:07.370 --> 03:14:10.639 Jerry Corley: What's our expectation? He's gonna say, you! 1266 03:14:10.640 --> 03:14:12.360 LINA: Yeah, and bipolar or anything. 1267 03:14:12.360 --> 03:14:24.299 Jerry Corley: He said, my doctor gave me a diagnosis. He said, your parents are fucking crazy. And he prescribed me Xanax. Then when my mom picked me up, she stole my Xanax. 1268 03:14:24.300 --> 03:14:24.830 LINA: Fuck. 1269 03:14:25.060 --> 03:14:40.049 Jerry Corley: So will you let us know, wow, this chick is nuts, this lady is nuts. That's… boy, there's some more in there. Let's dive deeper in that. And that's so personal and visceral, and holy shit, we feel that. Good work on that one. 1270 03:14:40.050 --> 03:14:49.569 Jerry Corley: That's a nice job, that's a really nice job doing that. And it's like, look at that, you're taking these risks with honesty, and it's becoming really, like, powerful stuff. 1271 03:14:49.570 --> 03:14:53.500 Jerry Corley: I love it. You know, really, I think it's great, Alina, good work. 1272 03:14:53.680 --> 03:14:55.820 Jerry Corley: And . 1273 03:14:55.820 --> 03:14:57.599 Cliff Spenger: Can I, make a note about that? 1274 03:14:57.600 --> 03:14:58.850 Jerry Corley: Absolutely, yeah. 1275 03:14:58.850 --> 03:15:06.670 Cliff Spenger: I think… I think saying… having the judge saying, your parents are fucking nuts would hit harder than fucking crazy, but it's… 1276 03:15:06.670 --> 03:15:08.140 LINA: Like, I just… yeah. 1277 03:15:08.140 --> 03:15:10.789 Jerry Corley: The psychiatrist saying your parents are fucking nuts. 1278 03:15:10.790 --> 03:15:14.560 Cliff Spenger: Yeah, fucking nuts. It's… that's just the punch, right? Because, yeah. 1279 03:15:14.560 --> 03:15:18.430 Jerry Corley: Yeah, it's not a… yeah, your parents are fucking nuts. 1280 03:15:18.430 --> 03:15:21.829 Cliff Spenger: It's more like a slang term, so it might be more. 1281 03:15:21.830 --> 03:15:28.900 Jerry Corley: personal, it sounds more like he's sharing something intimate and direct to somebody I'm giving… let me give you the skinny on this. 1282 03:15:28.900 --> 03:15:33.849 LINA: I think also, Cliff, you say that because it's… it's psychiatrist saying it, so you don't want to… 1283 03:15:34.010 --> 03:15:38.499 LINA: It's gonna sound weird if he says crazy when anybody… is that what you're saying? 1284 03:15:38.500 --> 03:15:44.530 Jerry Corley: goes to nuts with this, which is a slang. But it's personal, it's more like a friend. 1285 03:15:44.530 --> 03:15:54.379 Cliff Spenger: The technical term would be insane, right? They wouldn't say crazy or nuts, but nuts is more like a slang, more like a… really throwing it off the skew, in my opinion. 1286 03:15:54.380 --> 03:16:09.760 Jerry Corley: Yeah, yeah, I agree, I agree. That was a good, that's a good little note, and it's subtle, but it's right there, it makes sense. Jonathan Blank writes, dating apps are a great way to experience what used to be a lifetime of rejection in a matter of a few hours. 1287 03:16:09.820 --> 03:16:22.520 Jerry Corley: So, it's like turning… it's like turning your phone into an avatar of anxiety that follows you around everywhere you go, screaming, you're a loser, nobody wants you. Kinda reminds me of my childhood. 1288 03:16:22.660 --> 03:16:23.759 Jerry Corley: That's good. 1289 03:16:24.140 --> 03:16:35.259 Jerry Corley: I like that. And then, if we… we can even conflate that. You want to re-experience your childhood when you were, you know, when people called you a loser, bullied you? Just get on a dating app. 1290 03:16:36.120 --> 03:16:45.569 Jerry Corley: You could feel almost like go through your entire teen years of feeling like you were a loser in a matter of an hour. 1291 03:16:46.080 --> 03:16:56.799 Jerry Corley: Right? That's good. Dating apps actually reduce that time into one experience after another. I like that. I've never been on a dating app, but I could imagine. 1292 03:16:57.190 --> 03:17:02.209 Jerry Corley: You know, I'm a headliner. I don't pay for sex. I, 1293 03:17:02.790 --> 03:17:14.299 Jerry Corley: I keep using that line, it's still… because it's so absurd, but it's funny. Really nice, good. Now, what… oh, Greta had sent something here, where'd it go? Okay, here it is. 1294 03:17:14.770 --> 03:17:22.789 Jerry Corley: Oh, Spencer Pratt, Jonathan Blank also wrote, Spencer Pratt didn't buy home insurance, and now he's mad that the city won't pay for his house. 1295 03:17:22.850 --> 03:17:42.809 Jerry Corley: That's funny. That was a funny line. And Greta had to go. Too bad. Greta's, working, she's got a great story, and she's working on a one-woman show, and I think this is definitely gonna benefit her and her storytelling. She's got some… a great story that she's telling, and it's like, I've been coaching with her, and it's like, I'm a lot… that story is… 1296 03:17:42.930 --> 03:17:51.249 Jerry Corley: Could be gold. And it's like, it is right now, and she's just keep building on it, and she keeps supplying some of the crap that she's learning there to that. 1297 03:17:51.250 --> 03:18:15.580 Jerry Corley: So I think that… that helps with, everybody. I liked, Kathleen Madigan. There's more to watch in that, in that special. I just gave you a little snippet, because we only have 3 hours to… to look, absorb, process a few of these techniques she uses, and write. I'm going to give you a couple of other, including one that uses, like, sort of like a act-out, and diegetic interruption type of situation. 1298 03:18:16.660 --> 03:18:27.929 Jerry Corley: in the PDF that comes out, so you'll have that to work on later on. Practice with some of these, you know, watch your… watch a comedian, isolate what they do. 1299 03:18:29.040 --> 03:18:37.839 Jerry Corley: See if you can apply some of those techniques to yours, and what happens is, once you practice a few times, you can let it go. Because now, when you're telling the story. 1300 03:18:38.300 --> 03:18:42.789 Jerry Corley: Your brain is already… it's in there. Your brain will connect to it when it needs it. 1301 03:18:43.400 --> 03:18:55.489 Jerry Corley: And, you'll start to… you'll see it start to happen, it starts to come out more. I noticed that with Kaz. Every time she says, oh, I'm having a hard time with this, she'll do it later on when she's telling the story and she's under pressure. 1302 03:18:58.200 --> 03:18:59.990 Jerry Corley: Yeah. Kaz, you have your hand up. 1303 03:18:59.990 --> 03:19:08.779 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Yeah, it's a comedian question. What does it mean when a comedian, like, does a joke. 1304 03:19:09.170 --> 03:19:21.159 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: And then says, oh, I thought that would hit better, I thought it was really funny. Like, bashing the audience for not reacting how he thinks his own material is really. 1305 03:19:21.160 --> 03:19:28.439 Jerry Corley: Well, that depends on how they say it, right? It's like, well, you know, I like to say something like, you know, I knew I left something at home, like a punchline. 1306 03:19:28.630 --> 03:19:33.860 Jerry Corley: You know, because sometimes we try to be over-clever. I find that's my most common… 1307 03:19:34.030 --> 03:19:38.389 Jerry Corley: when I'm working on developing a piece, that's the most common I try to be overclever. 1308 03:19:38.390 --> 03:19:46.100 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: I tried to be really clever, and it wasn't one time, it was probably at least 10 times throughout the set. 1309 03:19:46.100 --> 03:19:57.799 Jerry Corley: Yeah, find a more… find a more interesting way to make fun of the fact that the joke didn't work. If the joke… 99.9% of the time, if you have an idea, it's funny. 1310 03:19:58.320 --> 03:20:01.450 Jerry Corley: You just haven't… and it's not getting a laugh, you haven't… 1311 03:20:01.650 --> 03:20:04.879 Jerry Corley: Been able to share it with the audience. 1312 03:20:05.870 --> 03:20:08.269 Jerry Corley: Where they can receive the… 1313 03:20:08.290 --> 03:20:13.830 Jerry Corley: part that's funny. So it's sometimes a matter of, sometimes it's a… an associative gap. 1314 03:20:13.830 --> 03:20:32.250 Jerry Corley: That's the most common thing that happens. It's like they put some fluff in between the modifier and the punch, right? So you have this setup line, and you're now gonna modify it with this here, and it's like, like, just like when we said with Lena, and the doctor, gave me a diagnosis. He said. 1315 03:20:32.720 --> 03:20:34.700 Jerry Corley: Your parents are fucking nuts. 1316 03:20:35.350 --> 03:20:49.430 Jerry Corley: Right? But if I say, my doctor gave me a diagnosis after I was leaving the institute, they said, and my mother was there to pick me up, he said, your parents are nuts. You see the gap? 1317 03:20:49.830 --> 03:20:50.580 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Yeah. 1318 03:20:50.580 --> 03:21:10.069 Jerry Corley: diagnosis, we really expect him to assess her. Instead, he gives a diagnosis that his parents… her parents are nuts. So, a lot of times we try to make… we say that, we'll throw in that associative gap in there, because we're trying to make it sound more conversational, and yet we've just destroyed the structure. And… 1319 03:21:10.070 --> 03:21:13.720 Jerry Corley: So, that's a common thing that people do, and they go, oh, I thought that would hit harder. 1320 03:21:14.170 --> 03:21:19.819 Jerry Corley: Well, either you… you've got some fluff in there that broke the structure. 1321 03:21:20.420 --> 03:21:23.489 Jerry Corley: You didn't create the expectation strong enough. 1322 03:21:23.790 --> 03:21:30.210 Jerry Corley: You disparaged somebody, like, you punched down, and the audience pulled back on you. 1323 03:21:30.210 --> 03:21:45.279 Jerry Corley: You yelled the punchline, benign violation theory, it's in our ears now. Ouch. We push back, and we don't laugh at the funny. So there's, like, a lot of different ways that that causes that to happen, and it's like, or we don't… 1324 03:21:45.740 --> 03:22:04.440 Jerry Corley: tap into the recognition. There's lots of reasons why, but that's 4 or 5 common reasons why the audience doesn't laugh, or those things right there. Or we jumbled the setup, like when Janet Rapala did her thing, I didn't understand that she had a tube in her. 1325 03:22:04.910 --> 03:22:08.410 Jerry Corley: That they took out, and they had to re-input it in. 1326 03:22:08.630 --> 03:22:14.959 Jerry Corley: And where it was, and now if we understand that, we're like, oh, shit, right? But it was just… 1327 03:22:15.110 --> 03:22:27.019 Jerry Corley: because as she was getting to it, she was kind of aware of time, and so she kind of sped the words up a little bit, and maybe, you know, sort of munched a few of them, and we didn't really understand what was going on. We didn't see the picture. 1328 03:22:27.290 --> 03:22:35.090 Jerry Corley: So I think that's a common thing, too. There's a reason why it doesn't work. The reason why is, like, we didn't deliver it to the audience in the way they needed to hear it to get the laugh. 1329 03:22:35.840 --> 03:22:42.289 Jerry Corley: Odds are it's funny. Odds are it contains some sort of irony. We just have to isolate it so they can see it clearly. 1330 03:22:42.520 --> 03:22:47.539 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Or when comedians think they're more clever than the audience, like, the joke is… 1331 03:22:48.850 --> 03:22:52.449 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Poity-toity? I don't know a better way to say it, you know what I mean? 1332 03:22:52.450 --> 03:23:08.439 Jerry Corley: Yeah, it's like, that happens too. Like, when I over-tell the story, trying to be clever, rather than sometimes, in a nutshell, what am I trying to say with this joke? Sometimes just say it, and there's the punch, then the cleverness may come in the tag, or the topper, or the act out. 1333 03:23:08.850 --> 03:23:10.690 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Because I think you had said, like. 1334 03:23:11.500 --> 03:23:21.200 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: George Carlin, he would just continue on. He didn't wait to see, you know, like, oh, that didn't work, or whatever. He would just continue on with. 1335 03:23:21.200 --> 03:23:22.609 Jerry Corley: Continue on, yeah. 1336 03:23:22.610 --> 03:23:24.800 Kaz Okamoto - Los Angeles: Yeah. Okay, thank you! 1337 03:23:24.800 --> 03:23:25.829 Jerry Corley: You're welcome. 1338 03:23:25.910 --> 03:23:46.119 Jerry Corley: Hope you got something out of this. I really enjoyed Kathleen Madigan. She's got a lot of good little things in there. We'll send, we'll send you the PDF, watch the full video, and then, and go in and look at some of her other stuff, and you'll see the same patterns repeat themselves, and how she reuses them consistently to get laughs over and over and over again. 1339 03:23:48.160 --> 03:23:49.619 Jerry Corley: See you guys next time! 1340 03:23:50.110 --> 03:23:51.279 Jerry Corley: Bye, everybody.